I asked a perfectly good question about god yesterday......?

Question

I asked if it was proven he existed would it remove the need to have faith that he did, because you wouldnt need faith in something proven. I got a load of abuse from some christians and they did not actually answer the question. Why did they not just say that they thought my question was rubbish rather than try to make out I was stupid. This is the thing that makes people dislike beleivers. Does blind faith make you blind to everything? Why are some christians so intolerant? Why cant they answer a straight question? They seem like politicians, they just got a pre planned speech and they cant seem to think for themselves. Have they been brainwashed? Please feel free to abuse and belittle me.......

Answer 1

That's to bad you got railed on for that question. I'm not sure why people would unload on ya for that, maybe they just feel threatened when someone appears to be questioning their religion.

Answer 2

simple question, simple answer. The Bible, one of the oldest books ever written tells us so. We believe stories we learn in school about Columbus or even Nostradomus but the way things are written confuses people.
Some believe they have found the remains of Jesus and his family but skeptical scientists are still mulling it over.
Your question is not rubbish. People question things every single day, there are many answers. YOU can take your pick.
Blind Faith? oxymoron Putting blinders on helps people not to feel so powerless about some things.
Intolerant christians..ye are know by the fruit you bear? not all are really true christians. Don't judge God by things that mankind does.
They should be able to answer a straight question. Yes, they are brainwashed and only know what they have been taught.
No one has all the right answers or there wouldn't be so many different religious organizations. You can still be spiritual if you don't want to pick a certain faith...but don't let them turn you into an Athiest.
Try reading a little about comparitive religions it will open up your mind..all the reasons why & how people worship can be quite interesting.

Answer 3

If, as you ask, He did exist, the faith we would continue to have in Him would be the same type of faith that we have in family and friends today. It is a faith that He would care and love us as His word says He will. We have that same faith in Him now because even though we can't produce the proof that many need to believe in Him, we believe that He still exist. Non-believers will make claims like, it is scientifically impossible for a god to exist. Well, where is that proof. Can you say that because another human seems to have some scientific idea as to why God doesn't exist, and you tend to agree with him, that it means there is no God what so ever? The truth is, none of us has the answers we would like to have. Those that choose to believe do so with faith. Faith in what they have learned about the God that they believe exist. Trying to convince a believer to NOT believe is sometimes like trying to get a non believer to believe. There are questions on both sides of the issue and I'm afraid many of those questions will never get answered here on earth.

Answer 4

sometimes when they dont have the answers they feel the need to say something regardless of what it is. I am sorry that they treated you like that. Hebrews 11:1 says that faith is the substance of things hoped for and the evidence of things not seen. Jesus said all you have to do is believe. Even those that walked with Jesus had to have faith. He was there telling them who he was why he came in the flesh and they still didnt have the faith. Faith is blind. But when you trust in someone or something it is the same. You trust your parents to take care of you and to love you. You trust that after you raise your children and send them out into the world of adulthood that they will live by the way that you taught them. It's something that you choose to believe. You trust and believe that your spouse loves you and will be with you forever and be faithful in doing so. It's about a love so great that you dont want to be apart from it. There is no brainwashing...you either believe or you dont.

Answer 5

I think it would be too hard for anybody to prove that he existed. I think that people use religion as an excuse. If they believe in God he can wash away all of their sins and save them. And I also believe that they use the 'Devil' figure as something to put off all of their mistakes and wrongdoings. I see where you are coming from about Christians being intolerant and stuff. I mean, I am Wiccan, I believe in Karma, and I have no problems with anybody else religion. That is what they choose to believe and I support that. I just don't like it when they believe that 'there' religion is the only way to go. I mean a lot of Christians contradict what they believe in. They are supposed to be so kind and caring and not supposed to do wrong or whatever. But the second someone has a different opinion about religion and such, they are considered 'Devil Worshippers'. It makes me so mad.

Answer 6

Wasn't something close to this asked in Hitchhikers' Guide to the Galaxy? I read it a long time ago and the author took it further and commented that since God existed and depended on faith he ceased to exist after it was proven he or she existed. I didn't find it offensive, I thought it was entertaining. I'm christian, African Methodist Episcopal christian (black people singing, shouting, and clapping for those that don't know) - the kind of christianity that makes me happy with spirituality and not angry at myself and other people. I've been to other houses of worship of other Christian demoninations and nonchristian faiths and there seems to be a lot of fingerpointing, damnation, and politicking that is going on at these places. I've never been told I'm a bad human being or I should vote for this person over another by my church, but if you receive hate and anger from your preacher you will probably spit it out to other people because that is what you associate with something that should be good. You will have to remember that not all faith is blind faith and many people have reasonable reasons to believe in something unbelievable.

Answer 7

Christians, like all people, can be intolerant when they feel like their basic life commitments are being criticized or attacked. I'm not saying that you were actually being hostile, but I'm sure that that's how people (wrongly) understood your tone. Some of us Christians are so used to abuse about our beliefs that we tend to see it everywhere, even where it's not. I'm also not saying that Christians are especially singled out for persecution. I've seen the same kinds of things happen with people who feel like their political views are constantly under attack.

Faith does not have to lead to such intolerance, though. John Henry Newman has a great Sermon in which he says that faith is opposed to bigotry. The basic idea is that faith is a hearing of God's Word and so must be accompanied by the humility of knowing that we don't know everything (else why listen to God?). Bigotry, on the other hand, thinks it knows everything already. Of course, even the best Christian falls short of achieving perfect humility: "No one so imbued with a loving Faith but has somewhat, perhaps, of Bigotry to unlearn; no one so narrow-minded, and full of self, but is influenced, it is to be hoped, in his degree, by the spirit of Faith." If Newman is right, then, faith does not make you blind to everything.

As for your original question, I would say that proving God's existence would only remove the need to have faith if we explicitly defined faith in contrast to reason. But "faith" in the Christian tradition seems to have more to do with trust, like I might say that I have faith that my wife will live up to her wedding vows. The faith of Christians is the trust that God will fulfill His promises. In fact, St. Paul, who spoke of faith so freely, also thought that God's existence could be known pretty definitively from the creation.

Sorry that you had such a bad experience, by the way.

Answer 8

I'm sorry if you were abused before. Christians are people, too, with the same mood swings as anyone else. The Holy Spirit convicts us when we act wrong and hopefully there is repentance and apology to any victims. To answer your question, I think the arrival of Jesus was proof enough that God exists. He fulfilled the prophesies , did miracles, defeated hell, death, and the grave and yet they still would not believe He was the Son of God. He commented on the fact that they had Him among them in the flesh and would not believe, so don't be surprised when they don't believe you (the disciples) either. It seems there's no way around it, faith comes by hearing, & hearing by the Word of God. It seems to be the way God chose for us to believe in Him.

Answer 9

The only way to learn is by asking questions. Alot of christians are not properly taught the real word of God. If they had they would not react to a silly question like you say they did.. Faith is the substance of things not seen but hoped for... so by how you asked I have to agree with you cause then you would know that you know and would not need faith.

Answer 10

I agree with you 100% about the whole "god question" you made yesterday... ie, I believe there is no way to prove God exists, because if there were, faith would then be impossible. Life is supposed to be an exercise in faith. That's why we left God's presence in the first place. You can't step out courageously into the unknown, if you already know everything.

Answer 11

Yes, we have been brainwashed, but so has everyone who has ever believed in a concept stated by another person, without actually coming to that same concept. However, if God could be proven I would loose my faith in God as such a being that could be detected by human means, would not be the all-powerful God I believe in.

It is good to keep an open mind, however be careful your brains may fall out if it is too open