What did Jesus really say?

Question

Considering that oral tradition is fluid.

. Only a small portion of the sayings attributed to Jesus in the gospels was actually spoken by him.

Historians measure the unknown by the known on the principle of analogy.

The greater part of the sayings tradition was created or borrowed from common lore by the transmitters of the oral tradition and the authors of the gospels.

The original manuscripts of the gospels have disappeared.

Answer 1

What Jesus really said, is probably suspended somewhere within a Gospel referred to by scholars as the 'Q' Gospel, from which Matthew, Mark, Luke and John are derived, and with some equal consideration given to the Gnostic Gospels which were popular for the first three hundred years after Christ, but later suppresed as 'heretical'.

Clearly, the general 'voice' as a transcendent Christ is heard in the sayings of the Gospel of Thomas, found at Nag Hammadi in Egypt, and carbon dated to be contemporary or written earlier than our oldest extant manuscripts of the four canonical Gospels.

Further, the 'voice' of Jesus of Nazareth might be heard in the actions of this historic character, and in the actions and writings of his followers.

We must consider not only 'orthodox' followers endorsed by the Church, but also the 'heretical' and marginalized 'voices' if we are to construct an historically accurate revision of the long dominant 'official church' history of Jesus and events of the various Christian movements.

Answer 2

I read that even "The Lord's Prayer" is actually a composite of several of Jesus's sayings.

What I think is the biggest laugh is how anyone can think that the text of any given version of the Bible can hold some "secret code," when it represents a pick-and-choose selection of oral histories which were then filtered through at least three language translations!

The greatest mystery to me is how the simple lessons of a gentle and pious rabbi, intended to bring peace and salvation to common folks everywhere, could have evolved into the complex belief system of modern-day Christianity, and especially the mind-boggling ornateness and idolatry of the Catholic Church.

How can people have gotten so hung up on the words and missed the message?

What would Jesus say? Would He even recognize His own religion?

Answer 3

To be perfectly honest, my Dear One, we have no idea. We have no written record of what he said. We only have heresay, memories and badly translated accounts which have been mis-translated again and again throughout the centuries.
What they do seem to all conclude is that Jesus seemed to be a peaceful man who wanted people to love each other and be kind (treating ones neighbor as one's self) Jesus also made no mention of homosexuality, since people were bringing it up without it being mentioned in your question.
Blessings, my Darling.

Answer 4

While oral tradition may be fluid, the Word of God, divinely inspired by the Holy Spirit, is infallible. Test it for yourself, provided you are not afraid of the truth.

Answer 5

There is a semi interesting book called " Misquoting Jesus" that you might like to read.

Answer 6

Read the course in miracles and find out for your self.

Love and blessings Don

Answer 7

Love one another, and obey the Laws of God.

Answer 8

Perhaps it is because I know you are homosexual but for some reason that question just seems... you know...

Oh. So it wasn't a joke....

The truth is that the majority of the things that are attributed to jesus were probably never actually said by him. It is difficult to believe that his followers, who never wrote anything that he ever said down, remembered every parable word for word and dictated them to their followers some 40 years after Jesus died.

Very difficult to believe.

Answer 9

That's why the bible is the ultimate authority

Answer 10

Nothing...