The Old Testament God is anything but omniscient. He often doesn't know what's going on, even in a neighboring town.
He doesn't know, for instance, where Adam is after Adam eats the fruit. Which makes it most amazing how, on another occasion, the Lord can know that absolutely everyone in the world was wicked, except for Noah and his family.
The Lord doesn't know for sure if the people of Sodom and Gomorrah are truly 'sinful.' He has heard an outcry that they were and he promises that he will go there personally to check it out. Nevertheless his two angels go instead, while He and Abraham continue their conversation.
The angels meet with the men of Sodom and determine not only that they're dreadfully inhospitable but that they have an unremitting desire to commit homosexual gang rape. The angels neither assess the women and children of this town, nor any of the inhabitants of Gomorrah. Yet God destroys all the inhabitants of both cities-save for Lot and his two daughters.
Now, stop being right, or the angry God will transform you into a pillar of salt.
2007-05-06 22:22:25
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answer #1
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answered by Kedar 7
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Many people make the mistake of believing the Bible says, “You shall not kill,” and seek to apply this command to war. However, the Bible actually says, “You shall not murder” (Exodus 20:13). The Hebrew word literally means “the intentional, premeditated killing of another person with malice.” God often ordered the Israelites to go to war with other nations (1 Samuel 15:3; Joshua 4:13). God ordered the death penalty for numerous crimes (Exodus 21:12; 21:15; 22:19; Leviticus 20:11). So, God is not against killing in all circumstances, but rather only murder. War is never a good thing, but sometimes it is a necessary thing. In a world filled with sinful people (Romans 3:10-18), war is inevitable. Sometimes the only way to keep sinful people from doing great harm is by going to war with them.
War is a terrible thing! War is always the result of sin (Romans 3:10-18). In the Old Testament, God ordered the Israelites to: “Take vengeance on the Midianites for the Israelites” (Numbers 31:2). See also Deuteronomy 20:16-17, “However, in the cities of the nations the LORD your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. Completely destroy them--the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites--as the LORD your God has commanded you.” Exodus 17:16 proclaims, “He said, "For hands were lifted up to the throne of the LORD. The LORD will be at war against the Amalekites from generation to generation." Also, 1 Samuel 15:18, “Go and completely destroy those wicked people, the Amalekites; make war on them until you have wiped them out.” So, obviously God is not against all war. Jesus is always in perfect agreement with the Father (John 10:30), so we cannot argue that war was only God’s will in the Old Testament. God does not change (Malachi 3:6; James 1:17).
2007-05-07 00:44:16
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answered by Freedom 7
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Then why is there so much controversy among Christians concerning capital punishment?
Capital punishment is a civil/legal issue. Are you aware that capital punishment is permitted in many sates in the United States but is not permitted in most of the states of Europe?
The parts you are referring to were during the theocracy; most countries today have a democracy. And killing is still permitted. It's called justice.
2007-05-06 22:16:41
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answered by flandargo 5
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The old testament was God saying do it.
The new testament is Jesus saying don't do it.
In the OT the people were under the Law Covenant. When Jesus was nailed to the torture stake the old law was fulfilled and as it were nailed to the torture stake with Christ.
We are told in both that it is a sin to kill. Since Jesus came to earth we have to wait on him to fix things. He is the King of the Messianic Kingdom. Through this Kingdom everything will be made new...a cleansed earth and heaven.
All scripture is beneficial and yes Jesus referred to them but he told us whoever lives by the sword shall die by the sword.
2007-05-06 22:14:56
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answered by debbie2243 7
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Christians were given a new law, the royal law. This law is included under the law they are subjected to, the Law of Faith!
One of the two laws state that loving your neighbor as yourself is the fulfillment of the law in regard to our fellow human beings!
Thus Christians are not permitted to kill! This is emphasized by Paul here:
2 Corinthians 10:3-5 for walking in the flesh, not according to the flesh do we war, 4for the weapons of our warfare are not fleshly, but powerful to God for bringing down of strongholds, 5reasonings bringing down, and every high thing lifted up against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of the Christ, (YLT)
Ephesians 6: 12because we have not the wrestling with blood and flesh, but with the principalities, with the authorities, with the world-rulers of the darkness of this age, with the spiritual things of the evil in the heavenly places; (YLT)
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If you think to imply otherwise you are truly lost and know not what you're talking about, your assertions being just empty attacks not founded in the truth.
If you have questions about the ancient Israelites and their conflicts and wars, please feel free to email me.
2007-05-07 02:10:01
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answered by Fuzzy 7
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If you believe that, then you are badly mistaken......
There was a reason for the things that happened in the old testament.....
Let's say, we are living in the old testament.......
You just heard that a king had committed genocide against a group of people because he repeatedly warned them to stop selling oil to foreign countries of which he disapproved.
Another king rises and sends his army into that man's palace and destroys his sanctuaries and many of his people fall as well as a great deal of his own army......
but, in the end, they execute that king because of the atrocities committed by his hand........
The king that rose says that it is the righteous thing to do.... by God we will win this war....... And so it is with Bush... that Saddam had fallen......
your sister,
Ginger
2007-05-06 22:22:46
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answered by Anonymous
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enable's take your scriptures in opposite order. Proverbs 30:17 isn't asserting which you will desire to pluck out the youngster's eye. it is asserting that it will in basic terms ensue. you will no longer ought to!!! in basic terms wait. there'll, in actuality, be no longer something you're able to do to end it. additionally, undergo in innovations that any good literature instructor will inform you that the Psalms and Proverbs are a sort of POETRY. subsequently, they use symbolism and imagery, in basic terms like the works of Emerson or Frost. Even the main no longer straight forward-center fundies agree that Psalms and Proverbs use symbolism and imagery. So do no longer take this to intend that literal birds will pluck out a literal eye. Now ... you have a difficulty with this?!?!? I surely do no longer see why. while you're rebellious in the direction of your mothers and dads, you may anticipate having a life crammed with no longer something yet failure and distress. it is that straightforward. And is the way it would be. As for Exodus 21:15 ... ummm .... what's your difficulty precisely?!?!?! First, you already know that we are conversing approximately an grownup fantastic his/her discern, top? babies are no longer held to the penal ingredient interior the Torah. They have been left to their mothers and dads' discipline. This passage bargains with grownup little babies who ABUSE their mothers and dads. confident, Exodus demands the dying penalty for Elder Abuse. severe, you assert? nicely, via modern Western criteria, helpful. yet in line with threat it is modern-day Western criteria that are the priority. What makes you so helpful that OUR sensibilities are the final ones? people from different situations and different cultures would locate our sensibilities in basic terms as appalling as we come across theirs.
2016-12-28 16:02:55
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answered by ? 3
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Only when the living prophet commands it.
Edit: I mean, we can't look at the Biblical history in retrospect and draw from that to justify killing in our time. The killing was only done in Old Testment times, in specific instances when the prophet got direct revelation that this was God's will. Jesus changed a lot of things, as any Jew will tell you.
2007-05-06 22:05:37
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answered by MumOf5 6
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Christ fufilled the Law of the Old Testament. His was the New Covenenat. Where do you find Him condoning such a practice.
2007-05-06 22:12:36
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answered by Debra M. Wishing Peace To All 7
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For the people who wanted the bible verses, here’s just one…
1 Samuel 15:3 "Now go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ***.
Oh wait, it’s “taken out of context.”
2007-05-06 22:45:59
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answered by Anonymous
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