if there were a god then it would be perfect in all things right?

Question

how then does one explain the biblical god of wrath and vengance , even the new testemant one appears to offer eternal damnation for trivia , ie. fornication

Answer 1

There is a God. And no everything wouldn't be perfect. Because God is God he will not take away our free agency. The reason that God is sometimes portrayed as a God of wrath is when people directly fight against God, and God is saying how in the end they will be punished.

Answer 2

God is, indeed, perfect in all things. The fact that he exacts vengeance or expresses his wrath against nations/people he has deemed wicked does not change that. God has four "cardinal" attributes. Those include justice. Do some research on those ancient nations he destroyed and ask yourself whether they were not worthy of destruction. Their practices included making their children pass through fire, in sacrifice to the god Molech. Nice, huh? You might consider fornication trivial, but God does not. Besides are you aware that God does not condemn anyone to "eternal damnation"? That is a dogma taught by churches but never by the early christians. Romans chapter 6 (I'm sorry I can't remember the verse") says that "he that has died has been ACQUITTED of his sins." Paul also says that "the wages sin pays is DEATH".

The most important thing to keep in mind is that God tempers that perfect justice with perfect LOVE. Even when he destroyed the ancient nation of Israel.. it was not before issuing warning upon warning... sending prophets... one after the other ... to get them to change their ways. Those individuals that did, survived.

Answer 3

By Biblical God of wrath and vengeance I assume you mean God of the OT. Well I hate to tell you this Skippy, but HE is the same one in the NT and He is perfect. Read the Book of Revelation if you want to know about His future wrath. It will make Sodom and Gomorrah look like a picnic.

And maybe, just maybe He doesn’t think fornication is such a trivial matter.

Answer 4

All Abramic religions (Judaism, Zoroasterism and Islam) are divergences of Vedic religions (semitic religions predating Abraham). In the Vedic relgions, there is a creator angel/demigod called Brahma whom is responsible for the creation of planets, and all living beings. Brahma is known to have undergone penance to God for 2 billion years before he actually gained full salvation himself. If Jehovah is Brahma, then this may explain some of the unexplicable.

However, just because you can't understand how an action could be perfect, doesn't mean that the action isn't perfect. God is omniscient and hence has perfect perception. A person with perfect perception certainly would not be unjustly mean. Humans have limited knowledge and so they often have trouble understanding God. Also, how you understand God depends upon how you interpret the bible. It is known that sects of Judaism (like the essenes) owe their perception of the Torah to the Zadokites (whom were loyal to the high priest of Soloman). It is perhaps likely that corruption of the Jewish scriptures has changed its teachings over the years.

Answer 5

God is just and He is loving. This is fair. Because of Adam and Eve's disobedience, we all inherited the sin nature. We are all sinners. Any of us can be homosexuals, murders, fornicators, thieves, adulterers, gossipers, addicts, gluttons or liars. Probably even more than one of those. We all posses this sin nature, which causes us all to be born separated from God and do the things that He has told us not to do. Man did this. Not God.

Jesus came to the earth for the purpose of becoming the blood sacrifice for the forgiveness of our sins. Those of us who will choose Him as our Lord and Savior and repent (which means to turn away from sin), will be given the free gift of forgiveness and eternal life with God. When we choose Jesus, God declares us blameless. This is called justification.

God doesn't want anyone to be lost. He loves us so much even though we are born sinners. He has provided Jesus’ sacrifice for us while we are still sinners.

Not choosing Jesus is the only way that we remain separated from God. It is then, our job to stay filled with the Holy Spirit that He has given to Christians (those who have accepted Jesus) for the help we need to obey Him.

God sanctifies us which means He makes us holy. Sanctification is living every day in light of who we are in Christ. It is practiced purity- a challenge, especially in the culture in which we live.

Prayer, submittance and obedience is what God has ask us to do for our benefit.

Coming to Jesus for love, leadership and forgiveness is the way to have a better life here, a renewed relationship with God and the promise of Heaven. The only way.

Answer 6

Prostitutes call it a trick, whores call it trivia. The physical act, within the bond of marriage, is meant to reflect the union of Christ with His church; which is not only sacred but requires a complete commitment.

Further Scripture calls fornication a sin against ones own body; for one is making trivia of the temple God created for his own dwelling.

Answer 7

So you somehow think that wrath executing a sentence against evil somehow makes God imperfect? I suppose you would feel better if He benignly smiled when He passed sentence against a child molestor? Would it be OK if he did NOT get upset over Idi Amin, Joseph Stalin or Adolf Hitler? What if he didn't bat an eyebrow over every person who ever harmed YOU? Would you still be OK with Him?

The fact that He is not some spineless, convictionless milktoast does not make Him less than perfect.

Tom

Answer 8

God's perfection is seen in all He created, good and eternal. The human eye is blind to spiritual truth and this leads thought to places that don't exist in God. Jesus proved God's nature and power. God is infinite Love, so where is the place for anger in love? His love is so great for man, that He would not have us believe lies for eternity, and so He gave us a way out. Now each of us has to find this way.

Answer 9

Fornication is not trivia. Neither are the other things God's abhors:

" Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God." - Galations 5:19-21 KJV

God made his Law straightforward (Exodus 20:1-21 KJV - Ten Commandments). Any man who breaks them will not find eternal life. Any man who marginalizes God's Law or who does not "fear" Him, clearly prefers to sin. God's Law is in place to keep you from sinning, and to bring you eternal life. Just and fair. There is no room for the "tiny sins". There is faith and obedience to His Law, or no entry to His eternal kingdom. Our free will, our choice.

Vengeance is all God's - when God "repays" He will do so to the party that sinned, to allow them the opportunity to repent. Vengeance actually gives way to God's rod of correction and staff of discipline for those who disobeyed God's Law. Wrath is really an old-world, King James word for "stretching oneself" - He is talking to us, to allow us to bear any trial or offense from anyone who does physical or emotional harm to us. He's telling us to "stretch ourselves" at the times of tribulations, as a way to victory:

"Dearly beloved, avenge not yourselves, but rather give place unto wrath: for it is written, Vengeance is mine; I will repay, saith the Lord." - Romans 12:19 KJV


We, as men who fall short of His holiness, do not have any leverage to question His authority on this. Eternal damnation is really our choice, if we choose to turn our back on God and His Law.

Answer 10

Please understand that God is a perfect God and so He is so perfectly balanced. If you are unbalance, you can only see the half side of Him. Either you biasely side in the left or right. So you questions His side that you don't like. Perhaps because you don't have a way to abuse the grace of God. Or as some honest evolutionist would confess that they don't want to take responsibility with God.