Christians! Since the secularists took God and prayer out of school have you seen an increase in violence?

Question

In our schools? I remember when we were expected to bow our heads every day to thank the Lord before classes began. That time seems so innocent compared to now. Is this what happens when God is taken out of everything? Our schools are being shot up and the values of our children have changed. Do you think this is due to removing God from our schools?

Answer 1

It Is. I remember prayer in school. There was a study done some years ago. After prayer was removed, President John Kennedy was killed, obscenity use increased, as well as teen pregnancy.
In those days of prayer, the greatest problems in schools were chewing gum, talking in class and running in the halls.
When we ask God to leave, He does, and Hell breaks lose.

Answer 2

No, it's completely irrelevant. If you put so much weight on the good influence of faith and obedience to a god, then consider the following...

Have all the churches been bulldozed? All holy texts burnt? Have parents' abilities to instruct their children in their religious beliefs been outlawed?

Are you seriously suggesting that the removal of a prayer at the start of the day in school is to blame for the violence in our country, when there are *plenty* of opportunities for religion in far more appropriate places?

If you must, blame parents. Blame bullies. Blame the media. Blame over-population. Blame entitlement.

At any rate, I graduated from high school 17 years ago. I *never* prayed or had a moment's silence at the start of the day. I did however march myself to my son's principal when his 2nd grade teacher told the class that "God created all the animals."

Would you as a Christian object to the children having to face Mecca every morning and pray to Allah? Isn't the 1st amendment grand? Religion has no place in a public school. Period.

Answer 3

Absolutely not. It's completely irresponsible to think that the problems in today's society are the result of one single factor, let alone that removing prayer from school is that cause. One of the primary reasons that schools are being shot up these days is because of easy access to guns. Another even bigger cause is a lack in parenting. People expect everyone else to raise their children for them instead of doing the job they signed up for when they decided to have a child. If a kid has a problem these days, parents want to know why the schools didn't catch it in time and do something about it. How about paying attention to your own damn family and fixing the problems that you see right before your eyes?! They're your kids, take some responsibility for them! We have kids running around in and out of their homes allowed to do whatever the hell they want with no supervision. If I had acted the way I see kids acting today when I was that age (which wasn't that long ago), my mother would have beat my butt till I couldn't sit!

Oh, and a reminder for those of you that have forgotten or prefer to remember only what supports your cause....
Kids were still being forced to pray in school when Charles Whitman shot and killed more than a dozen people from the observation deck of a watchtower in Texas.

Answer 4

Anyone can pray in school but there can be no school led prayer unless you'd wish to include all deities that represent the children present. And I mean all - the christian god, allah, any pagan deities that a child may follow and anyone who does not believe should be able to state so too.

Now, if you did all that, when would there be time for learning what is really important that will keep our country going?

Violence has always been part of society; check out the history of it. You think the old west or the colonial era wasn't violent? Basically now you see more media coverage since Vietnam and it's more in your face than it was prior to that.

Answer 5

Actually, virtually all school shootings and college masocres happened after McCarthyism put In God We Trust on US money.

However, school violence has decreased every year since the early 1970s, so it seems like legalizing abortion must make schools safer.

Answer 6

Yes I believe it is and I've been saying that for years. I remember praying in school and saying the pledge of allegiance with "under God" still in it. God is a gentleman and won't come where He's not invited....We need to invite Him back into the schools.

Answer 7

Let me replace God with Faith as a whole - living in America now - there are many Faiths. It HAS been replaced.

The way I explain this to my kids who are teenagers is this. It's like putting a frog in boiling water. Back when my mother was a teenager they wouldn't show Elvis from the hips down - that was the standard then - now we have hoochie mamas on MTV - we have nastiness all over TV. We have been put in a pot of lukewarm water and slowly the temperature is being increasing to extend our tolerance level - there is this need to get that shock value - however hardly anything shocks anymore - which is sad that this is normal to us now. Now had we gone from Elvis not being allowed to be shown from the hips down to what we have today people would TOTALLY be screaming. Our standards have slowly been lowered. When we are watching TV or listening to music - whatever it is, think about this, it is the same as sitting in a classroom and listening to the teacher TEACH us different things. What we learn in the classroom - in church, from anyplace - if it fits us, we believe it. Just like the book from Dr. Spock that started the whole don't spank your kids theme.....oh heck no.....if my kids ran into the street, they got a swat on the bottom.

These kids are being brought up with such contradictions it is unreal! Don't do this or don't do that yet they are allowed to watch it on TV or have it blasting in their ears from their iPods.

My best friend lives in L.A. Her son goes the high school there. A couple of Fridays ago his school and her entire neighborhood was put on lock down. She wasn't upset, she wasn't shocked, she wasn't scared that there were 2 gunmen who had just robbed a bank running loose in her neighborhood. THAT is sad.

I have excellent teens! Involved, not only with school, but they can carry on intelligent conversation with adults regarding Christianity and Politics, worldwide politics, not just American. They have been brought up with no bigotry, that it isn't their job to judge anyone. They were brought up with the truth about sex from whenever they started asking questions, yet they were NOT allowed to play violent video games - heck they weren't even allowed to watch the local news until they were older. I have had many debates on that with other mothers. My thought is that my kids are basically guaranteed that they will have sex - they need to know and have healthy ideas about it - the chance of them taking a gun and shooting someone - nul.

By the way - there is no MTV, no nasty music. The boys were taught to respect women as equals, and all 3 have been taught to respect themselves and others. Honesty - consideration and respect - not only for those around them but for themselves.

Answer 8

by fact it relatively is at a loss for words adequate because it relatively is already without including "which" faith is the "righeous" one. As a baby, I remember asserting the pledge of allegiance, and in catholic college "praying," whether it nonetheless did no longer end me from beating some heads in for the time of recess. I collect you relate violence on the upward push by those issues being taken out of faculties, so could you have them taught how the Israelites have been various the main ruthless conquerors of their time or how they hung Jesus on a tree, to function to all they see already? the upward push for violence and homicide comes out of the age of technologies which has made many into social outcasts. human beings do no longer relate to a minimum of one yet another like they used to different than or no longer it relatively is by a "device" and one on one touch is on the decline, as is "self-discipline." once you have government telling you that youngsters can not be "spanked' or "disciplined" as they have been in the previous by skill of mum and dad SOCIETY pays the cost. there are a number of factors why violence is on the upward push and it has no longer something to do with colleges and "faith." certainly one of it is composed of the divorce rates in this united states and how human beings do no longer persist with their duties and household projects. i ought to circulate on and on whether all of it comes all the way down to an identical ingredient. It has LITTLE to do with prayer or the lack of ability of it.......

Answer 9

Sadly Christians have pushed hard to force their religion on others and dictate to the country to follow their ways. All this when they criticise Muslims for wanting the same for their country and in violation of the Constitution.

No wonder then that a society called American Atheists has sprung up and is becoming popular. They are simply opposing the Christians attempts to overthrow the constitution and force their way as an unelected body.

Sadly I think it could all end in a second American revolution and it will be the fault of the fundamentalist Christians!!!

And by the way - it is totally and utterly stupid and unchristian to try and claim morals are with the Christians. Morals were around long before Christianity.

Answer 10

How old are you and where are you from? If that was going on in your school...was it public school? I went to school in the 1960s and already, there was a moment of silence but no prayer. Also, no, prayer doesn't have anything to do with the violence in schools. In fact, in Pearl, Mississippi, a Christan bastion, how would you explain those kids shooting up the place?