Matthew 28:19 Therefore, as you go, disciple all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit,
2 Corinthians 13:14 May the grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit be with all of you!
1 Peter 1:2 the people chosen according to the foreknowledge of God the Father through the sanctifying work of the Spirit to be obedient to Jesus Christ and to be sprinkled with his blood. May grace and peace be yours in abundance!
Those are some of the scriptures which refer to the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. If you want to read further check my link.
2007-05-06 01:51:35
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answered by Cybeq 5
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There is no way to truthfully answer your question without offending the sensibilities of someone or other. But I will try to do so.
All of my comments are taken in the context of the formal Roman Catholic Church, which has governed this doctrine called 'Christianity' for 1,700 years, give or take.
In the time of it's supposed founder, Yashua bin Jusef, there was no established theory of a triune 'Godhead', there was no established theory of most of the official dogma. Yashua lived, was a member of a radical, fundamentalist, Judaic sect, the Essenes, and tried, together with members of his family and like-minded friends, to establish a new Jewish Kingdom, following the 'royal' lineage of King David. He did not succed, and as the Aramaic word that we call 'Messiah', is the future tense of the annointed King of Israel, his claim was never accepted by orthodox Jews, because he did not, in fact, become the secular King.
The 'Trinity' came about some 300 years later at the Council of Nicea, convened by Constantine in order to establish 'Christianity' as the official religion of the Roman Empire. The central issue of this council was the 'Divinity' or other of it's central figure, in this case, Yashua. There were two main schools of thought, both strangely enough, originating in Alexandria, Egypt. One said that Yashua was just a man, a very inspired man, but a man nonetheless. The other said he was a 'God'.
Constantine was a Roman, through and through, and he was looking for a doctrine that would grant him total control of the mass of the populous of the Roman Empire, for that, in Roman thinking of course the head of the official religion would have to be a 'God', even previous emperors had taken that status. So it was essential that the issue be decided that way, however, there was a massive impediment, 'Christianity', like it's natural 'parent' Judaism, was a monotheistic dogma, something quite alien to Roman thinking, where an unlimited pantheon of 'Gods' was perfectly natural. So, how to combine the very different systems of thought ?
The result was, frankly, a mish-mash, not very well thought out, but an earnest attempt to resolve the unresolveable.
Hence 'God', the Father, 'God' the son, and 'God' the Holy Ghost. The latter being the linking factor which 'brings' the 'Godness' from the 'Father' to the 'Son'. Of course, many loose ends were left open, according to the Synoptic Gospels it was the Angel Gabriel who visited Mary, but that came too close to sounding like some kind of base sexual union, angels were supposed to be able to take on human-like bodies, so it was resolved that it was the Holy Ghost that peformed the unmentionable 'deed'.
You will not find any contemporaneous text that mentions anything resembling the concept of the 'Trinity' in that form, although there was a concept inherited from the ancient 'Old Kingdom' of Egypt, in which the establishment of stable government on Earth was believed to be made by a triune structure composed of the two 'Pillars' of men, the King ( in Egypt Pharoah ), the High Priest ( of the Osirian religion ) and 'God' ( Amon-Ra ) forming the link between the two, the origin of the principle that has enslaved people all over the world for thousands of years, the 'Divine Right of Kings' !
Similarly, it is impossible to 'prove' a negative, you ask for textual evidence against the 'Trinity' concept, and none exists, and neither does any exist that says that we shouldn't tar and feather ourselves if we burp in church.
2007-05-06 09:59:50
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answered by cosmicvoyager 5
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The word "trinity" does not appear in the text. Trinity is a "term" made up by Bible students to describe what the Bible is talking about when it speaks of God in the plural form. Such as when it says "father, son, and holy spirit". This is obviously 3 different persons. But, all 3 are part of the godhead. One god in three persons. In Genesis we read:
26 Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground."
Gen 1:26 (NIV)
Who is the "us", and the "our" in this verse. This is common throughout scripture.
If you use a topical index and look under "trinity" you will find more verses than you can read all day long on the subject.
2007-05-06 09:09:48
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answered by johnnywalker 4
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The Trinity consists of three Persons: Genesis 1:1; 1:26; 3:22; 11:7; Isaiah 6:8; 48:16; 61:1; Matthew 3:16-17; Matt 28:19; 2 Corinthians 13:14. In the passages in the Old Testament, a knowledge of Hebrew is helpful. In Genesis 1:1, the plural noun "Elohim" is used. In Genesis 1:26; 3:22; 11:7 and Isaiah 6:8, the plural pronoun for "us" is used. That "Elohim" and "us" refer to more than two is WITHOUT question. In English, you only have two forms, singular and plural. In Hebrew, you have three forms: singular, dual, and plural. Dual is for two ONLY. In Hebrew, the dual form is used for things that come in pairs like eyes, ears, and hands. The word "Elohim" and the pronoun "us" are plural forms - definitely more than two - and must be referring to three or more (Father, Son, Holy Spirit).
In Isaiah 48:16 and 61:1, the Son is speaking while making reference to the Father and the Holy Spirit. Compare Isaiah 61:1 to Luke 4:14-19 to see that it is the Son speaking. Matthew 3:16-17 describes the event of Jesus' baptism. Seen in this is God the Holy Spirit descending on God the Son while God the Father proclaims His pleasure in the Son. Matthew 28:19 and 2 Corinthians 13:14 are examples of 3 distinct persons in the Trinity.
2007-05-06 10:23:39
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answered by Freedom 7
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If you have read the Bible, it becomes axiomatic:
–adjective 1. pertaining to or of the nature of an axiom; self-evident; obvious.
There are verses that reveal parts of God that we can attribute to the nature of Him. Through reading the Bible, we are exposed to these things:
1) Jesus is God (Hebrews 1, John 1, John 8:58)
2) The Father is God ( Ephesians 1:2, John 8:41)
3) The Holy Spirit is God (Matthew 12:31, Matthew 28:19, Genesis 1:2)
The Bible does not mention the word 'trinity' because it wasn't a word applied to anything about God in the Bible. It was a poetic attempt to describe the nature of God. So I do not out my faith in the 'trinity', but rather, I put my faith in God. He is just more complex than just one, but can be understood as being one, because the Bible also says that He is one. So as complex as it gets, I can refer to God as being one, Jesus is somehow a part of that one, and the Father is a part of that one, and the Spirit of God is one, all in perfect harmonious agreement. How? The Spirit of God has led me to agree with it. That's the best I can do.
2007-05-06 09:05:39
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answered by Christian Sinner 7
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You must get a Catholic bible to read their scripture changes.
The Trinity’s Early Origins
The Bible tells of many gods and goddesses that people worshiped, including Ashtoreth, Milcom, Chemosh, and Molech. (1 Kings 11:1, 2, 5, 7) Even many people in the ancient nation of Israel once believed that Baal was the true God. So Jehovah’s prophet Elijah presented the challenge: “If Jehovah is the true God, go following him; but if Baal is, go following him.”—1 Kings 18:21.
The worship of pagan gods grouped in threes, or triads, was also common before Jesus was born. “From Egypt came the ideas of a divine trinity,” observed historian Will Durant. In the Encyclopædia of Religion and Ethics, James Hastings wrote: “In Indian religion, e.g., we meet with the trinitarian group of BrahmÄ, Siva, and Viá¹£á¹u; and in Egyptian religion with the trinitarian group of Osiris, Isis, and Horus.”
No one elses bible cover what the Catholic one does.
2007-05-06 08:59:16
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answered by Wisdom 6
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The trinity does not exist, Many tries to use Matt.28:19 Baptize them in the (NAME) of the father & the son & the holy ghost. I want you to look very closely you trinity people, I too once when I fist got saved in 1970 a trinity, But that was the very first thing God showed me that there is not trinity. Now look at your verse you try to use, Name is singular, You will NEVER find anyone ever baptized in those TITLES. Jesus said I have came in my Father name. There is only One redemptive name & that is the Lord Jesus Christ . I challenge anyone to prove to me that anyone was ever baptized in those titles, You can't find it, The redemptive name of God is the Lord Jesus Christ. & Everyone in the bible was baptized in the name of the LORD JESUS CHRIST. The trinity doctrine came along later on by the Catholic Church.
2007-05-06 09:07:08
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answered by birdsflies 7
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In Christianity, the doctrine of the Trinity states that God is one being who exists, simultaneously and eternally, as a mutual indwelling of three persons: the Father, the Son (incarnate as Jesus of Nazareth), and the Holy Spirit. Since the 4th century, in both Eastern and Western Christianity, this doctrine has been stated as "three persons in one God," all three of whom, as distinct and co-eternal persons, are of one indivisible Divine essence, a simple being. Supporting the doctrine of the Trinity is known as Trinitarianism. The majority of Christians are Trinitarian, and regard belief in the Trinity as a test of orthodoxy. Opposing, nontrinitarian positions that are held by some groups include Binitarianism (two deities/persons/aspects), Unitarianism (one deity/person/aspect), the Godhead (Latter Day Saints) (three separate beings) and Modalism (Oneness).
In addition to teaching that God comprises three persons, the doctrine also teaches that the Son Himself has two distinct natures, one fully divine and the other fully human.
Neither the Old Testament nor New Testament uses the term "Trinity," though Trinitarians believe the concept is implicit in various biblical passages (see Scripture section below). The doctrine of the Trinity is the result of continuous exploration by the church of the biblical data, argued in debate and treatises.It was expressed in early writings from the beginning of the second century forward. The First Council of Nicaea in 325 AD established a nearly universal Trinitarian dogma and expressly rejected any heresies. The most widely recognized Biblical foundations for the doctrine's formulation are in the Gospel of John.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Trinity
2007-05-06 08:44:46
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answered by Anonymous
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The Bible doesn't talk about trinity because trinity is a Roman invention. Emperor Constantine was looking for something to unite his empire so he founded the Roman Catholic Church which is a mixture of Christianity, Creek theology and Roman pagan believes. Constantine was trying to please everyone in his empire.
2007-05-06 09:21:38
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answered by Anonymous
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The term trinity is not there...but the belief in it comes from the scriptures,
1 John 1:14 The Word became flesh and made his dwelling among us. We have seen his glory, the glory of the One and Only, who came from the Father, full of grace and truth.
1 John 15:26 "When the Counselor comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, the Spirit of truth who goes out from the Father, he will testify about me.
1 John 16:13 But when he, the Spirit of truth, comes, he will guide you into all truth. He will not speak on his own; he will speak only what he hears, and he will tell you what is yet to come.
14 He will bring glory to me by taking from what is mine and making it known to you.
15 All that belongs to the Father is mine. That is why I said the Spirit will take from what is mine and make it known to you.
1 John 16:27 No, the Father himself loves you because you have loved me and have believed that I came from God.
28 I came from the Father and entered the world; now I am leaving the world and going back to the Father."
Luke 3:16 John answered them all, "I baptize you with water. But one more powerful than I will come, the thongs of whose sandals I am not worthy to untie. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and with fire.
New Testament Scripture refers to Jesus as coming from the Father and sending the Holy Spirit from the Father, that they are all united.
2007-05-06 08:51:55
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answered by guppy137 4
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