Concerning the Trinity?

Question

I would want to know more about the Trinity itself, I know what it is composed of but I dont understand the depth of it and as a Roman Catholic i want to know more about them. Can you recommand any books ??? thank you! one mroe thing, if you dont beleive in them, fine but the question is recommandation concerning them to broaden my knowledge thus your opinion should be in those parameters, not if you beleive in them or nor or if you agree with it or not. Thank you

Answer 1

Try reading the Catechism of the Catholic Church and the Baltimore Catechism. Or go to www.catholic.com or www.newadvent.org

In answer to your question on the Immaculate Conception (sorry, I know I should go to that answer page, but the question is hard to find again), it's December 8.

Answer 2

The first source listed is a great start, and he is not a Catholic, but on this is in full agreement with Catholic Doctrine and has been published in a Catholic collection of articles.
The 2nd source (Kreeft) is a Catholic Apologist, whom I recommend you become very acquainted with, he's excellent!
The 3rd source, outlines the historical heresies mostly concerning the trinity, and will allow for a more in-depth understanding of the orthodox Trinitarian view. Again, he isn't a Catholic author, but on this he will be in agreement.
If you need more information or titles, don't hes

Answer 3

1.) Systematic Theology
by Wayne Grudem, Chapter 14. A great Theology text.
http://www.amazon.com/Systematic-Theology-Wayne-Grudem/dp/0310286700/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/102-0196526-8999365?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1178389317&sr=1-1

2.) The Mosaic of Christian Belief
by Roger E. Olson, Chapter 6
http://www.amazon.com/Mosaic-Christian-Beliefs-Centuries-Diversity/dp/0830826955/ref=pd_bbs_sr_1/102-0196526-8999365?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1178389397&sr=1-1

Answer 4

Hello Shlane,

I would direct you to do some research on the elevation of jesus to godhood. Look up the First Council of Nicea 325AD, where it was argued whether jesus was made of the same substance as god, or similar substance as god. Then look up the Nicene Creed, which resulted from that debate.

The trinity, or the triune god concept would not have survived without this first step of the Nicene Creed.

Answer 5

Well, first of all, I had an answer for you, but God allowed Satan to mess with the internet so that I could not send you my answer. That is why I am typing this first paragraph to let you know why it took so long to reply. The devil may have won the skirmish but I will start over again now and by the grace of God give you my answer. Sorry you did not receive my answer long ago but you know how Satan is. In spite of this, I give glory to God and shall start answering you right now.

I will suggest, since I do not remember all I had written, a book called, 'What the Bible teaches'. It is put out by Warner Press. The topic is delt with in this book.

I must warn you that there are those who believe that you and I and denominations, many movements, and many non-denominations, that believe in the triunity of God, believe that we all believe in polythiesm. The do not know the scriptures. They may know verses of scriptures but they really do not know scripture. If they did, they could rightly divide the Bible, and not preach and teach such unGodly mess. The Jesus only people as oneness persons believe who are known as Apostolic Pentacostals, believe that God is a manefestation of Jesus and the Holy Spirit is a manefestation of Jesus. They believe, whether they want to admit it or not, that the name of God is Jesus, and the name of the Holy Spirit is Jesus. WE believe that Jesus is God himself as well as the Holy Spirit being God himself. They refuse to accept that because of our finite minds, we can not understand how God the Father, God the Son, and God the Holy Spirit can be seperate individual and unique, yet be God at the same time.
The Nicene (hope I spelled it correctly) and Apostle's creeds tell us this.

Remember that in this day, the last days, such false doctrinal teachers and preachers will be roaming this earth. God is Triune and WE do NOT believe in polytheism.

I hope I have not confused you.

Answer 6

All this books are Christian so might not match your theology exactly but I have found them useful.

The Trinity - Carl Rahner
Making Sense of the Trinity - Millard J. Erickson

Remember the trinity is mystery that we will not relay understand on this side o Heaven.
The Holy Spirit Points to Jesus (our only mediator with God) and Jesus points us to God.

When you pray to God in Jesus name.

Answer 7

In Genesis God says "...like us." Now this leads Christians to believe that He was talking to Jesus and the Holy Spirit. I always wondered what the Holy Spirit was, as it's the least explained version of the Trinity, and if it can enter all of us, is there lots of Holy Spirits, or just one that can divide itself.

Answer 8

I don't understand. Did you not attend a Catholic school, or at least attend CCD? Anyway, God is tripartate, in that there are three aspects of himself, that you already know, the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost.
All three aspects have always existed, even before the manifestation of Jesus in human form. Look upon it as three personalities. We all have different sides to our personae, this is the same concept.
It cannot, however be fully explained by man, as this is one of the Mysteries.

Answer 9

Though the term "trinity" is mentioned nowhere in the Bible, Scripture confirms the existence of 1 God with 3 manifestations: Father, Son and holy Spirit.


Deuteronomy 6

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Hear then, Israel, and be careful to observe them, that you may grow and prosper the more, in keeping with the promise of the LORD, the God of your fathers, to give you a land flowing with milk and honey.
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"Hear, O Israel! The LORD is our God, the LORD alone!
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Therefore, you shall love the LORD, your God, with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your strength.

Isaiah 45

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For the sake of Jacob, my servant, of Israel my chosen one, I have called you by your name, giving you a title, though you knew me not.
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I am the LORD and there is no other, there is no God besides me. It is I who arm you, though you know me not,
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so that toward the rising and the setting of the sun men may know that there is none besides me. I am the LORD, there is no other

John 10...12...14

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My sheep hear my voice; I know them, and they follow me.
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I give them eternal life, and they shall never perish. No one can take them out of my hand.
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My Father, who has given them to me, is greater than all, and no one can take them out of the Father's hand.
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The Father and I are one."
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Jesus cried out and said, "Whoever believes in me believes not only in me but also in the one who sent me,
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and whoever sees me sees the one who sent me.
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I came into the world as light, so that everyone who believes in me might not remain in darkness.
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And if anyone hears my words and does not observe them, I do not condemn him, for I did not come to condemn the world but to save the world.
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Whoever rejects me and does not accept my words has something to judge him: the word that I spoke, it will condemn him on the last day,
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Where (I) am going you know the way."
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Thomas said to him, "Master, we do not know where you are going; how can we know the way?"
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Jesus said to him, "I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
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If you know me, then you will also know my Father. From now on you do know him and have seen him."
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Philip said to him, "Master, show us the Father, and that will be enough for us."
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Jesus said to him, "Have I been with you for so long a time and you still do not know me, Philip? Whoever has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'?
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Do you not believe that I am in the Father and the Father is in me? The words that I speak to you I do not speak on my own. The Father who dwells in me is doing his works.
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Believe me that I am in the Father and the Father is in me, or else, believe because of the works themselves.
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Amen, amen, I say to you, whoever believes in me will do the works that I do, and will do greater ones than these, because I am going to the Father.
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And whatever you ask in my name, I will do, so that the Father may be glorified in the Son.

Acts 5

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But Peter said, "Ananias, why has Satan filled your heart so that you lied to the holy Spirit and retained part of the price of the land?
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While it remained unsold, did it not remain yours? And when it was sold, was it not still under your control? Why did you contrive this deed? You have lied not to human beings, but to God."
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When Ananias heard these words, he fell down and breathed his last, and great fear came upon all who heard of it.

1 Corinthians 12

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There are different kinds of spiritual gifts but the same Spirit;
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there are different forms of service but the same Lord;
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there are different workings but the same God who produces all of them in everyone.
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To each individual the manifestation of the Spirit is given for some benefit.

Hebrews 10

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For by one offering he has made perfect forever those who are being consecrated.
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The holy Spirit also testifies to us, for after saying:
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"This is the covenant I will establish with them after those days, says the Lord: 'I will put my laws in their hearts, and I will write them upon their minds,'"
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he also says: "Their sins and their evildoing I will remember no more."

Answer 10

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