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Unlike other racist beliefs , Islam says God will bless both sons of Abraham and make them a means of blessing to all the world.

Islam says Hagar and Ishmael were sent to Arabia when he was an infant and not a 17 year old like some contradictory verses of the bible suggest.

Islam says there was no spat between Ishmael and Isaac since Ishmael lived thousands of miles away in Arabia when he was a 17 year old man.

However, other verses in the bible do prove that Ishmael was an infant by the way he was carried on the mothers shoulder.

It looks like early Jewish scholars did not want to admit that God would promise to bless the world through BOTH the sons of Abraham.

Islam was chosen to host the "Prophet like unto Moses" who would bring the Final Law and book.

Just as Moses was a statesman, law giver, MILITARY LEADER and father ...... so was Mohammed, the descendant of Ishmael.




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2007-05-04 07:20:18 · 17 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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The Allah of Islam isn't the Allah of Abraham. Abraham's God is the Lord God who promised Ishmael to be a large nation also. The Lord God = Yahweh Elohim.

Salvation comes to the World including Ishmalite through the Jewish Messiah, Yeshua Messiah. Through His Word and His Redeeming blood all nations can inherit everlasting life, through faith in Jesus Christ, the Son of the Living God.

2007-05-04 07:32:15 · answer #1 · answered by LottaLou 7 · 2 0

I whole heartedly disagree.


Christianity is not a Jacobite religion. The Jacobites and Romans crucified Christ.


Ishmael was Abraham's first son.

In Dueteronomy 21 it says

The Right of the Firstborn
15 If a man has two wives, and he loves one but not the other, and both bear him sons but the firstborn is the son of the wife he does not love, 16 when he wills his property to his sons, he must not give the rights of the firstborn to the son of the wife he loves in preference to his actual firstborn, the son of the wife he does not love. 17 He must acknowledge the son of his unloved wife as the firstborn by giving him a double share of all he has. That son is the first sign of his father's strength. The right of the firstborn belongs to him.
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Later on, Isaac receives all of Abrahams possessions. But, Ismael receives something better ... Christianity.

After the death of Christ, the Jews denied him as God. The apostles spread across Arabia and Africa and spread Christianity.

The Arabs are the sons and Daughters of Ismael. The Arabs were the first Christians. So while the Jacobites got to keep all of Abrahams wealth. The Ismaelites got salvation. If it was not for the Ismaelites (Copts, Assyrians, Palestinians ...), there would not be Christianity today.

Christianity is not a Jacobite religion.

2007-05-07 05:59:33 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Let me ask you a question. Can the Koran be critiqued? If you are an informed Muslim you would say no because I do not know advanced Arabic. When we are on equal ground about what can be critiqued then I'll engage you. For now let's not pretend for a second that there aren't any apparent contradictions in the Koran. Apparant contradictions in the Bible have been well delt with in books like "When Critics Ask" by Norman Giesler and Thomas Howe. As far as Jewish scholars corrupting the OT text the manuscript attestation for the OT ant NT far exceeds the Koran. Do your homework.

2007-05-04 07:40:11 · answer #3 · answered by vantil23 5 · 2 0

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2016-11-25 02:13:22 · answer #4 · answered by satterly 4 · 0 0

Ishmael was the illegitimate son of Sarah's maid-servant. Isaac was the son God promised to Abraham & Sarah by God. Mohammad was a false prophet, if he were truly a prophet of God, the Bible & the quran would be in perfect harmony--neither would contradict the other. God does not oppose Himself.

2007-05-04 07:29:38 · answer #5 · answered by wanda3s48 7 · 4 0

Beg to differ hun.

The bible, and indeed my copy of Hebrew Scriptures, both say God promised to bless Ishmael and make of him a great nation. Just like Isaac.

Hang on. I'll find the verse for ya.

Here we go. Douay Rheims Bible - Genesis chapter 21

16 And she went her way, and sat over against him a great way off as far as a bow can carry, for she said: I will not see the boy die: and sitting over against, she lifted up her voice and wept. 17 And God heard the voice of the boy: and an angel of God called to Agar from heaven, saying: What art thou doing, Agar? fear not: for God hath heard the voice of the boy, from the place wherein he is.

18 Arise, take up the boy, and hold him by the hand: for I will make him a great nation.

(Same verse from the Torah: 18 Arise, lift up the lad, and hold him fast by thy hand; for I will make him a great nation.')

19 And God opened her eyes: and she saw a well of water, and went and filled the bottle, and gave the boy to drink. 20 And God was with him: and he grew, and dwelt in the wilderness, and became a young man, an archer.

21 And he dwelt in the wilderness of Pharan, and his mother took a wife for him out of the land of Egypt.

You'll have better luck finding info in a Catholic bible. There are footnotes in the NAB (not NASB) that mentions the conflicting information about Ishmael's age.

But then it seems we Catholics are looked down upon by some other Christian denominations because we see Muslims as our brothers and sisters.

Very sad. We are all children of Abraham.

2007-05-04 07:26:39 · answer #6 · answered by Max Marie, OFS 7 · 2 0

Well just to answer to your statement "Prophet like unto Moses"
If you read it in context you will see Mohammed doesn't fit into this prophecy.

The promised prophet was to be sent unto Israel: but Muhammad professed to be sent to the Arabs among whom he was born. As for a likeness to Moses, we learn from Deut. 34:10-12, that the two points in which the Israelites expected the coming prophet to resemble Moses were: personal knowledge of God, and mighty works. Muhammad said, "We have not known Thee in the truth of Thy knowledge (or 'as Thou shouldest be known')"? With reference to mighty works, the Qur'an tells us that Muhammad was not given the power of working miracles (Surah 17:61: see Baidawi's and Abbasi's commentaries: Surahs 2:112; 6:37,57,109; 7:202; 10:21; 13:8,30; 29:49,50).
Muslims try desperatly to find a way for him into the scripture but Mohammed is not mentioned in the OT and Jesus never spoke of him as we can see in the NT.

The points of resemblance between Moses and Muhammad so God Himself has explained in the Gospel that this prophecy referred to Christ, not to Muhammad (compare Deut. 18:15,19, "Unto Him ye shall hearken," etc., with Matt. 17:5; see also Mark 9:2, and Luke 9:35). Jesus explains that this and other passages in the Taurat refer to Himself (John 5:46: see Gen. 12:3; 26:4; 18:18; 22:18; 28:14). He was descended from Judah (Matt. 1:1-16; Luke 3:23-38; Heb. 7:14), was born in Israel, and spent almost all His life among the Jews, and sent His disciples in the first place to the latter (Matt. 10:6) and only secondly to the Gentiles (Luke 24:47; Matt. 28:18-20). In Acts 3:25,26, the prophecy we are considering is definitely referred to Christ.

2007-05-04 08:14:38 · answer #7 · answered by Sternchen 5 · 1 0

I have no idea only that God said in Isaac shall your descendents be called. I think it to believe God that He sent His son Christ for the forgiveness of sins.

Abraham believed God.

2007-05-04 07:27:11 · answer #8 · answered by sientje8 s 3 · 1 0

Ibrahim offer Issac not Ismael
and the Blessing is to Issac
and the Promises for Issac
not for Ismael.

2007-05-04 07:36:31 · answer #9 · answered by Mosa A 7 · 2 0

islam was made up by moohamid(npbuh). There is no connection to The One True God, The God of Abraham, whatsoever.
but mooslims do believe that the quaran is from their so-called god allah... that there is only one quaran... that there is only one islam... that the quaran is islam and islam is the quaran.

The quaran clearly states that all who do not submit to the law of the quaran and islam are to be killed... that dose make all who follow the quaran and islam the ememies of all the rest of the human population.

2007-05-04 07:32:21 · answer #10 · answered by idahomike2 6 · 0 1

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