Was this a major bone of contention between Jesus and the bible god?
Also, the Bible god said anyone caught working on the Sabbath shall be put to death; and Jesus told everybody to just lighten up and enjoy the Sabbath.
Since the Bible god never changes, what did Jesus think he could accomplish with these statements?
2007-05-04 05:16:43 · 22 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Its actually a good question and one I bring up often.
If god is, was and always will be the same then why have some rules changed? Was he wrong before? If so could he be wrong about other things.
Its a error in the doctrine. The are many many logic holes in the religion and its teachings. Its a good read and had some decent moral lessons but its not divined from some supreme creator.
I can feel my thumbs down meter vibrating with fear.
2007-05-04 05:24:35 · answer #1 · answered by Reisnoh 4 · 2⤊ 3⤋
The Law didn't change. The only difference is that Jesus took the "stoning" for us. Jesus said, "I came not to abolish the Law, but to fulfill it". To "fulfill" doesn't mean "to do away with"; it means to make true.
Jesus also told the people that "the Sabbath was made for Man, not Man for the Sabbath". The Jews of the time had loaded down the Sabbath with so many restrictions and prohibitions that it became a drag. God intended it to be a joyous day of rest and relaxation, a time to commune with God and reflect on His creation.
2007-05-04 05:26:35 · answer #2 · answered by FUNdie 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The Bible also says to stone your children outside of the gates if they are really really dishonoring, etc. You have to see things in a whole. God's plan for the Jews was to introduce the Messiah to the world through them. If they were destroyed as a nation or people, or mixed with other religions, the Messiah would not have come.
The Bible talks about the Jewish Law as a "tutor" to bring us to Christ. It let everyone know that it was only by forgiveness we can be right with God. It wasn't the following the law that made people right with God, it was the faith behind those actions. So, not everything commanded in the Bible can be taken for me right now. God in the new testament as given us His Spirit to guide us. Hope that helps some.
The only reason I believe in Jesus, is because He died and rose again. This kinda proves His authority, right? I don't know why God did things the way He did, but I'm glad because would you want a God with our tiny human brains could figure out?
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2007-05-05 01:47:53 · answer #3 · answered by Vincent W 1 · 0⤊ 0⤋
A different time a different generation and Jesus wrote for the nations not just the Jews.
Jesus never said that a man should be an adulter or that he would be in God's kingdom if he was. He was just content to let God do the killing.
The Sabbath law was made for a people who had just come out of a life time of slavery and now had their own nation and needed time to rest and learn about God.
the same principal is applied today we should set aside time to learn about God. But to kill for not seems a little extreme.
Now it is left up to the individual to study the bible or not.
When the laws were given I think God thought it would never have to be carried out. Just the thought that you would die would be a deterrent. Most punishment isn't ever done.
How many times do you threaten your child with you do that again and I spank you. Do you?
So knowing from past experience with humans that wasn't working as any good parent he tries another strategy to get his children to be obedient. God had never raised a human before and he is learning as he goes to.
2007-05-04 05:31:20 · answer #4 · answered by Steven 6 · 0⤊ 1⤋
Understandably, each of us might have our own personal feelings on this, based on our experience or situation in life. Yet, as true Christians, we should try to conform to God’s thoughts about capital punishment, while remaining neutral regarding the political stands that many take on this issue.
To put it pointedly, in his written Word, God does not indicate that capital punishment is wrong. We have to consider the fact that, as Lawgiver, Judge and Supreme Sovereign, [JHVH] God can also delegate to others the authority to execute lawbreakers.
Early in human history, The true God [Jehovah] shared his thoughts on the matter, as we read in Genesis chapter 9. This involved Noah and his family, who became ancestors of the entire human family.
While God dealt with Israel as his people, various other serious offenses against divine law were punishable by death. At Numbers 15:30, we read this broad statement: “The soul that does something deliberately, whether he is a native or an alien resident, he speaking abusively of Jehovah God, in that case that soul must be cut off from among his people.”
In Conclusion, God’s law to ancient Israel also provided for the death penalty for a wide range of offenses, including, for example, murder, kidnapping, incest and bestiality. (Num. 35:30, 31; Ex. 21:16; Lev. 18:6-23, 29) The executions were usually by stoning, and were public.—Deut. 17:5.
Capital punishment was then a great restraint against crime. And, if swiftly and consistently applied, it could help to deter crime today, thus greatly relieving the prison problem. True, many who refuse to accept the wisdom of God on this matter will cry “cruelty.” Yet, where have their methods led us? Greater cruelty than ever before is being perpetrated, not on the criminals, but on their victims.
Again, it must be admitted that the problem of crime will not be eliminated by man despite the enforcement of the death penalty, or any other attempts to solve it. But there is a complete and satisfying answer.
Almighty God can, and it is his certain purpose to do so. His Word promises: “For the upright are the ones that will reside in the earth, and the blameless are the ones that will be left over in it. As regards the wicked, they will be cut off from the very earth.”—Prov. 2:21, 22.
After that, people will be governed by God’s laws. Such laws will be enforced by a loving but firm government, the one for which Christians have been taught to pray—God’s kingdom under Christ. How fine it will then be to live without any need for prisons, when everyone on earth can be trusted as a friend! (Matt. 6:9, 10)
2007-05-04 05:42:00 · answer #5 · answered by jvitne 4 · 0⤊ 0⤋
I don't believe the bible is meant to be taken so literally. The old testament is filled with stories about an angry and vengeful God. I think for the most part these are very old stories that were used to teach young people lessons. I don't doubt that Moses existed but I think for the most part the stories in the bible are a bit exagerrated.
2007-05-04 05:41:41 · answer #6 · answered by amydee511 3 · 1⤊ 0⤋
In the Old Testament, God also allowed for stoning rebellious teens to death. That said, have you ever noticed that it is referred to as the OLD Testament? The word testament is the wishes of the testator; in other words it is a will.
Since the Jews broke covenant with God, and God still desired a people, it was necessary that He start a new covenant, a new testament, based on better promises. The first covenant could NEVER make anyone perfect and required a life of perpetual sacrifice. The second covenant DID make the worshipper perfect, and did it by ONE sacrifice: the sacrifice of Christ. Since it was a testament, the death of the testator was necessary in order to bring the testament into effect.
Furthermore, by making these statements, I suggest that Jesus knew He was egging the Jewish leaders on, and that it virtually garauntee that they would kill Him.
Tom
2007-05-04 05:22:56 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 1⤋
I agree with Dusty Scribe. further We believe that He knew peoples heart. She may have been totally repentant we just aren't give that information. He did tell her afterward to go and sin no more. You fun athiest guys always leave tha part out.
Most of the earliest manuscripts don't even include this story. Its not to say it was not in the orginal but neither should we base doctrine on this passage considering it has questionable origins.
I didn't learn that from reading my bible by the way. Contrary to popular belief christians do read other books and most of us are very well read indeed.
2007-05-04 05:29:08 · answer #8 · answered by Tzadiq 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
The God of the Old Testament wanted Adam to be pure and his helper, but the physical nature is a questioning state, thus inpure. Even when Jesus changed water to wine, it wasn't because he wanted to, he was pushed into it by his mother. Gods whole purpose of appearing in the flesh was to understand our condition which he needed to do because spirit is not like physical. Jesus, as the 'son of God' had the curtin of ignorance on him too, in order that he focus our eyes on God the Father, not him. Yet the church elevates his actions beyond human abilities because it wants the power going against Gods plan because Jesus says we too can do as he did. Jesus is of God, but the Anti Christ made him a confusion. When the Veil is lifted by God, you too will see and experience Gods love. How can we believe that God wouldn't allow the Anti-christ a place in the Bible, when he allowed King David the way to drive King Saul insane?
2007-05-04 06:03:24 · answer #9 · answered by Marcus R. 6 · 1⤊ 1⤋
In the story of the stoning of the adulterous woman, Jesus was saying to the Pharisees that were ready to stone her, that they too were sinners- those that wanted her stoned, were not looking within their own hearts to see what was sin- they were ones that pointed fingers and did not feel the need to repent- so when Jesus told them "those without sin to cast the first stone" he was making the point that ALL fall short of the glory of God. When they all left Jesus told the woman, "to go and sin no more". What did Jesus accomplish- reminded us all that we are sinners in need of grace and a savior.
2007-05-04 05:23:44 · answer #10 · answered by AdoreHim 7 · 2⤊ 1⤋