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santa clause and the snowman are both more popular than jesus himself on christmas day.i mean look at the christmas movies the americans make.hardly any of them are about jesus.but just a fat man dressed up as santa.its just santa, santa, gifts and snow.oh yes getting drunk too.where does jesus have a part in this.

2007-05-04 00:09:26 · 12 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Does anyone know the exact day Jesus was born? Does it really matter what day we celebrate his birth? Should we stop celebrating his birthday because December 25th was not his birth date?
I think the answer is no.
Peace and every blessing!

2007-05-04 00:35:42 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

In earlier Roman Catholicism some forced coversiants didn't want to give up their pagan holiday when they called to the sun for more warmth on the winter solstice (Dec. 25th). Since no one knows for sure the date of Jesus' birth the pope declared it Dec. 25th so the pagans would be more easily converted. The placement of Christmas trees comes from worshipping the fertility goddess Ashtoreth (see Jer. Ch. 10). The word "Santa Clause" came from excited children saying "Saint Nicolas" very fast like "Saaniclause". The planet Jupiter was very brightly lit over Bethlehem between March 12-15 in 6 BC. This would probably be seen as a star to the magi. My studies have the birth of Christ probably on March 12, 6 BC. We do know he was born between 4-6 BC. There were dates at this time and even long before for the passover was celebrated on a certain day of a certain month in the year of a certain ruler. I hope I helped.

2016-04-01 08:01:40 · answer #2 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

OK, here I go! Most Christian holidays (holy-days) are based on Pagan sabats. When Christianity was trying to convert the rural dwellers (pagans) to their socio-political beliefs ... they set their holidays to as closely as possible coincide with the pagan sabats ... this created conflict and distraction for the christian converts who still had long implanted rituals that occured around the pagan natural celebrations. It also made the Christian celebrations more "user friendly" to the rural folk. Hence ... Christmas is celebrated at a time when pagans would be celebrating "Yule" .... or winter solstice. And Easter is set to coincide with "Oestra" (I've yet to find a Christian who can tell me what the word Easter has to do with the death and resurrection of Jesus!) For pagans Oestra is the time when the sun (son) rises again from the dead (the long dark winter) and brings new life to the world. The easter bunny (rabbits are known for their ability to procreate LOL) and the egg are both symbols of fertility ... spring ... new life and growth.

My point is there is no more documentation of the actual time that Christ was crucified than when he was born ... and the early political Christians chose dates to conflict and compromise the important spiritual dates of those they needed to convert. (for taxes and power)

I think Jesus existed and was probably a very old soul who wanted to teach people how to find life and truth and live a good, loving life that would lead them to a better future in further lifes. I am not a Christian, obviously. I am Pagan, and I think that the spirit that lived in the human form known as Jesus was exploited for power, fortune and fame by humans and that has carried on through the ages.

2007-05-04 00:32:51 · answer #3 · answered by Lou C 4 · 3 0

Good question.

Here is what we know as absolute fact.

(1) December 25th was the Feast of Sol Invictus- the birth of the Sun. But to Romans who worshipped dark satanic gods, it was the Feast of Saturnia as well as the feast of the much older satanic Syrian blood god Dagan- from which we get the concept of Satan.

There are 364/5 days in a year and plenty of days to pick for a holiday celebrating the birth of Jesus- but only one day out of all 364/5 that represented the most important pagan day for old satanic gods- December 25th.

(2) The Vatican has known the true date of Christmas for 2,000 years. We know this because one of the first groups of people persecuted as heretics by the christian church were people who refused to celebrate the birth of Jesus on December 25th and instead kept the true day Friday 14 Nisan in the Jewish calendar, or March 14th and then later April 1st as sacred.

(3) The Vatican has been singularly obsessed in celebrating the birth of jesus on December 25th against most of the ancient orthodox christian churches for hundreds of years.

To simply say it is a respect tradition, or is "too hard to change" is hiding much deeper and sinister facts. You will never hear of the feast of Saturnia or Dagan from the Vatican. Why is this particular date so important for them? Who are they really worshipping?

2007-05-04 01:37:06 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Christ WAS BORN on or about September 28Th or 29Th. One has to know the order of the High Priests to understand this, and it seems that you do. Great Job. Elizabeth's husband was serving his term in the Priestly Duties and we know that John was six months *older* then Jesus being born on earth. John was the Messenger who came in the Spirit of Elijah. Great job again I say.

2007-05-04 00:36:31 · answer #5 · answered by Ex Head 6 · 1 1

Because tradition keeps them in line with the ways of tradition. Traditions are hard to break, and we Christians hav a choice on whether to observe any Holy Day without judging one another for it. I choose not to observe that day. And it's to the Lord that I do not observe it.

Such is the freedom that I have in Christ Jesus.

2007-05-04 00:18:23 · answer #6 · answered by Christian Sinner 7 · 1 2

Because of History and those that changed the dates.

2007-05-04 00:14:27 · answer #7 · answered by <><><> 6 · 0 0

Great question. I for one don't celebrate Christmas anymore.

2007-05-07 01:59:30 · answer #8 · answered by ebony 3 · 0 0

because in the assimilation attitude of the Christan church, they took the Wicca holiday of candlemas, wove in some pagan Yule, and made it Christmas...

2007-05-04 00:37:05 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

I never understood that and after all the years in Catholic school and everything I am STILL in the dark about that.

2007-05-04 00:51:59 · answer #10 · answered by Lynnemarie 6 · 0 1

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