Rather than being offended at this person's ignorant question, why not throw it back at her?
Ask: Okay...so you are bothered that Jesus was crucified (obviously, because you are baiting the Jewish posters on here)....but is Jesus' crucifixion not necessary for his glorious resurection? Would it have been as dramatic for him to catch a really nasty cold, die, and then be resurrected?
The whole "blame the Jews" for his death is faulty and unthinking reasoning by an uneducated mass of christians. You, if you stop (and finally) think about it, should be thanking the Jewish leaders and the Romans for Jesus' crucifixion. Without his suffering and death, you would still be burning for your sins, if you believe the Christian Theology that is taught every Sunday to the good girls and boys.
2007-05-03 10:52:20
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answer #1
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answered by Anonymous
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Jesse son of Josephus was tried for the offense of treason against the Republic of Rome and sentenced by the Roman Prelate, a certain Mr Pilate. He was executed by Roman soldiers according the the Roman Law in the Roman fashion, crucifixion (nota bene: Latin word = crucifix).
All accounts in the Bible state this clearly, words or hand-washing notwithstanding.
And in the USA, treason against the government is still a capital offense, so yes, today, the same penalty could be applied.
Of course when Christianity became the official religion of the Roman Empire, the story had to be punched up a Little Bit to make someone else responsible. Tricky thing, since the facts of history were so widely known by then that the New Writers accounts had to state the story as known or they risked ridicule.
If Jesus would have been sentenced by the Sanhedrin for a religious offense he would have been banished from the city, nothing worse. No death penalty in Jewish Law for issues of faith, AFAIK.
2007-05-03 11:03:40
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answered by emagidson 6
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There's two different takes on this question, whether you're asking what "really" happened, which is an impossibility obscured by time and lack of any reliable sources, or whether you want to know what Christians say happened?
The general sense that I get from movies and church growing up is that he was executed for some sort of heresy against some imagined Jewish religious/political hierarchy, or perhaps against the Roman's sense of their emperor being god?
Some people have offered that if one removes some of the supernatural aspects from the four gospels, the only thing that makes sense is that the Jesus person, actually named John Of Gamala, or actually Barnabas which means "Son Of Man" mentioned alongside the fictional "Jesus", was executed like a revolutionary brigand (roving band of thieves and cutthroats inciting rebellion and anarchy) and not a religious prisoner at all, and not by the Jews, but by the Romans, and not magical at all.
2007-05-03 11:18:23
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answered by Anonymous
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First of all, I have to inform you that I'm not Jewish, but I'll answer your question anyway because I spent a very long lifetime studying history.
What was Christs crime that he was crucified for ? Answer - - He was crucified by the Romans for claiming he had powers greater than the Emperor. At that place and time, that called for the death penalty.
The Jews disliked Christ for claiming he was the Messiah, but they weren't the ones who executed him. Roman soldiers led him to the spot of execution, fastened him to the cross, and stuck a spear into him.
The one who speared him was Captain Longinus of the Roman legions.
Would he be executed for the same offences today ? ? ?
Nope, in Israel today, you can shoot off your yapper all you want. You'll be labeled a koo-koo, but not executed.
2007-05-03 10:57:40
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answered by Anonymous
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while he was preaching he said he was the son of God. In fact the first thing God ever made. Which was the truth.
To them that was blasphemy against God.
They took very seriously any deviation from what they believed. ONe man said a short 300 years ago that he wasn't quite certain he believed in a trinity. Another man quickly drew his sword and cut off his head on the church steps. Which would probably be done today in certain countries. Such as the middle east. If you come up with a simple statement against their traditionally held beliefs they will kill you. that is why the Sunni and Shiite and Hezbollah and the other fractions of muslims are fighting today over slight variations in belief.
In the USA if someone were to be preaching on TV and said "I came down from heaven and I am now living in a human body and I was once in heaven with God. I am the first thing God ever created. colossians 1;15
I was born by immaculate conception and I am here to teach you the truth about God."
He would probably lose his TV show but other than that he would be laughed out of town. Those were different times and a different place. So I guess the answer would be if everyone believed you like they did Mohammad and worshipped him. Or else you would lose your head over it.
If you were born where Jesus was.
2007-05-03 10:54:42
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answered by Anonymous
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Scriptures teach that no one can claim to be God and deserve death if they do. Just as do women who have sex outside of marriage. However Jesus normally stayed away from the religous law enforcers, and was literally afraid of them, but because it was a high Jewish holy day period when work, travel, and play were against Jewish law, Jesus challenged these beliefs and was arrested in the middle of the night. That the Romans played the lackey escapes no ones attention, Jesus was condemmed by Jewish law. Thw same as the church excommunicates people today. In the middle ages, the church actually sent soldiers to kill the excommunicated rather than get blood on their hands. That God is not fooled escapes their peception because they believe in their own power over others, not Gods. This is Biblical Knowledge.
Jesus would not be execute in civilized countries today unless the Church had the same power it did back then which is the power to judge peoples beliefs and Jesus clearly takes that away from them. This is also why the Catholic Church follows Pauls teaching who was raised as a Pharisee and belittled what Jesus teaches.
2007-05-03 11:20:20
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answered by Marcus R. 6
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What Jesus was preaching went against what the Jews believed. No one likes to hear that what they believe and have believed for hundreds of years is no longer correct, especially when it concerns your soul. But it wasn't the general mass of Jews that arrested Jesus to be crucified, it was the Jewish elders and Priests, and their specific charge against him was blasphemy; claiming that he was the Son of God.
And then Pilate, the head honcho in charge, crucified him to pacify the throng of people, who were persuaded by the chiefs and elders to ask that Pilate execute Jesus at some feast.
Lots of politics involved. People in high positions feeling threatened. Same old story. Happens everywhere, all the time.
Maybe he would have been executed today. Possibly not by the Jews. Depended on who he pissed off, and how much he pissed them off.
2007-05-03 11:17:52
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answered by Halcyon23 2
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Basically for disturbing the peace by inflaming public opinion. The case of Jesus Christ, when it came before Pontius Pilate, was complicated. Pilate clearly wished to uphold Roman liberalism. He had earlier got into trouble by insisting that the right to show images in Jerusalem, no matter how objectionable it was to the Jews, was lawful. When he questioned Jesus, which he did with some care, he reached the conclusion that Jesus’ message was not inflammatory in a political sense or such as might lead to a breach of the peace.
Pilate elicited from Jesus the key remark, "To this end was I born, and from this cause came I into the world, that I should bear witness unto the truth." Now for a man charged with words or conduct calculated to provoke a breach of the peace, truth is not necessarily a defence.
In English law, for example, in cases of civil libel, truth is an absolute defence. But in criminal libel, where the peace is broken or liable to be, truth may aggravate the offence. In any case, truth is a debatable commodity, and may be a dangerous one.
In any event, Pilate said "I find in him no fault at all."
Pilate was eventually persuaded to change his mind, and to put to the horrific death by crucifixion a man he believed quite innocent, by the persuasions of the Jewish elders. They were able to manipulate the mob, which said, "Crucify him, crucify him." And this in turn led to Pilate’s terrible and humiliating admission of cowardice and abdication of power, "Take ye him, and crucify him, for I find no fault in him." No doubt that the elders made it clear to the nervous governor, behind the scenes, that by permitting Jesus freedom to resume his preaching he would be risking real trouble, warning, "You may find no evidence so far that this man has caused a breach of the peace. Believe you us, there will be a breach of the peace on a horrific scale."
2007-05-03 10:54:07
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answered by Anonymous
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He was killed cause he claimed that he was the Son of God and ppl didn't take that too lightly. They also wanted to test his legitimacy like when he was on the cross they said "Well, if you're God Son why doesn't he get you down from there??" and shiiiit like that.
And if he were to come back today:
#1 he wouldn't be a hippie, he'd be a 6'2'' Canadian white boy that's gonna make his money through art, music and eventually fashion and modelling becoming the most internationally known artist/celebrity maybe doing a few movies cause he's gonna be the fukkin King of the World, in a sense that he'd be perfect in every way possible and can do anything(being the Son of God and all) cept when he comes back he's not gonna claim to be God's son which brings me to...
#2 yahh, someones gonna shoot him EITHER WAY and he's not gonna claim SHIIIT. They're gonna do it cause ppl are gonna put words in his fukkkin mouth and making it seem like he's claiming that but he's NOT, and again, they're gonna do it to test the legitimacy of being the Son of God... killing him even though he's the epitomy of all that's good in the world they just gotta kill him anyways... fukkin humanity, ehh?
but the beauty of it is when they do kill him he's... well not gonna take it lightly so to speak cause the entire Judgement thingy, yah, it will come shortly after...
2007-05-03 11:06:14
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answered by Anonymous
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Why would you think that Jews today have any knowledge at all about what the catholic church said about why their fictional deity was killed?
Jews don't follow the new testament, nor have any record of the occurrences that chistians claimed happened 2000 years ago. However- it is well documented that the Catholic church ran a 800 year smear campaign against the Jews. Have you ever heard of 'blood libel?' Not popular today, but it was church doctrine as late as 1913.
2007-05-03 10:51:09
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answered by Morey000 7
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