How else do you think we come across the quotes?
If Jesus says in a parable that represents himself as a king that orders his servants to kill those who would not have him as their ruler, is this or is this not Jesus saying to his followers "But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay [them] before me."
There are much better ways to say that those who don't follow will be lost, damned, sent to hell, whatever. He could have said that "those who did not follow his directions were cast out of his kingdom" or "those that did not submit were left at the gates of the kingdom with no hope of entry." Instead, Jesus says BRING THE NON-BELIEVERS BEFORE ME AND KILL THEM!
How is this view "taking the parable out of context"? I say, taking it any other way is taking it out of context. But I'd love to hear your opinions again.
2007-05-03 07:39:41 · 12 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
I think "context" just means "Shut up! Shut up! Shut up!"
2007-05-03 07:49:36 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 3⤊ 2⤋
I find it interesting that atheists would spend so much time reading a book they disagree with.
Does it matter which way he said it? Does it matter that much to you personally?
KJV : But those mine enemies, which would not that I should reign over them, bring hither, and slay them before me.
He was giving an example of discourse between a king and a bitter servant who thought the king was severe and strict. Well, if he thought that, then what was he expecting for refusing to acknowledge the king? A good old Joe pat on the back? Sugar coated words?
Jesus's words cut to the quick. He was hated by the religious men back then because he didn't wink at their sin and hypocrisy.
If his words are severe in your eyes as well then ????
He brought things to the level of those he spoke with, but he wasn't there to molly coddle.
2007-05-03 08:31:42 · answer #2 · answered by ? 6 · 2⤊ 0⤋
Because they are trying to cover for the mass hypocrisy that is the bible and they know that we know the truth...and they know that we know they know...lol!
For Best Bet...a great many of us were christians to begin with...we were raised christian and taught the bible from a very young age...I read the bible all the way through the first time at age 12 and it was the KJV...I read the NIV at age 15 and again at age 25...I don't understand how christians can question *why* an atheist would read the bible? I know a great many christians who have read the Quran...why would they do that? An attempt to understand and comprehend a different belief...what is so hard to understand about that? And since many of us spent MANY years in bible study to begin with then why wouldn't we know the context in which certain verses were written? Hell many of you christians are at odds as to exactly what the bible is trying to say. And an example of an atheist knowing his bible would be the professor I had in college...I was taking a class on the old testament...he walked into the first class and announced that he was Dr. Potts and he was going to teach us about the old testament...and he was an atheist...
2007-05-03 07:45:23 · answer #3 · answered by Stormilutionist Chasealogist 6 · 2⤊ 1⤋
People have been taking things out of context for years, why stop now. There is no diffrence between the way you just represented the bible, and every time I have seen it represented in church, televanglism, and heard it on the radio.
Cheers, and bring me some unbelievers, I have a religious right to practice and an axe to frind
2007-05-03 07:45:37 · answer #4 · answered by shivercraft 3 · 2⤊ 1⤋
The reason we do not think that you understand Scripture is because Scripture is taught by the Holy Spirit. However, there are truths in the Bible that even unbelievers can interpret and you have picked such a verse.
When God says He will destroy unbelievers - BELIEVE IT.
When God told Moses to bring them before Him, and they disobeyed, God destroyed them. When God told Israel to destroy every person in the city that He gave to them, God meant every living person. God did not want the wicked polluting His people Israel. God knew that Nimrod, Noah's grandson had gone after the way of evil and revolted against God. God knew Nimrod had many followers and the Canaanites were wicked. God knew that people had mixed with fallen angels who had left their first abode.
I'll tell you, right now, why you are here.
Revelation 4:11
"Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honor and power: for Thou has created all things,
and for Thy pleasure they are and were created."
You my friend were created for the pleasure of God. The Potter God can make good pots and bad pots. The Lord gives and the Lord takes away. You asked for my opinion and you are getting it. You have 2 choices. Accept Jesus or reject Jesus. And since you know the Bible you know the rest of the story. May the Lord have mercy upon you.
2007-05-03 08:08:19 · answer #5 · answered by Jeancommunicates 7 · 1⤊ 2⤋
Are you asking for an interpretation of the parable or asking why people tend to stereotype atheists?
In my personal opinion many Chritians may know book chapter and verse however, they miss the meaning of scripture. We are seekers of truth and that takes humility and an open mind if we are to find it.
2007-05-03 07:46:24 · answer #6 · answered by margherita 4 · 3⤊ 1⤋
I think it's because a lot of Christians just can't comprehend anyone reading the Bible without believing it like they do. I think they assume that we must just get all of our quotes from one person who sat down and skimmed the Bible for anything discrediting.
2007-05-03 07:46:43 · answer #7 · answered by insomniac 5 · 3⤊ 1⤋
Because you're taking the quote out of context as it were in the book. I bet if you dropped a phone call to your local church, they would be more than happy to guide you through whatever complication you're having.
2007-05-03 07:47:06 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 3⤋
Sad, isn't it? Some - not all by a long way - Christians seem to assume that we are ignorant of the bible.
2007-05-03 07:43:06 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 7⤊ 1⤋
not sure what parable this is...could some one athiest or non help me out here?
2007-05-03 07:49:02 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
"Out of context", The Christian's favorite saying. I told one person that they need to get T-shirts printed.
'If it doesn't fit what I say is says, it must be out of context"
2007-05-03 09:57:48 · answer #11 · answered by Gorgeoustxwoman2013 7 · 2⤊ 2⤋