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I posted a question and commentary about the Catholic church yesterday.The response has been awesome.Many do raise pertinent issues about why they do/do not belief in the teaching,doctrine and faith of this church.I did assert that credible historical and biblical evidence abounds crediting this church.I have read books written about Christian history by our protestant brothers.What is a fact is that protestantism has been with us for not more than 500 years.That is a historical fact.On the other hand,there is historical evidence of the existence of the catholic church for more than 2000 years. What strikes me most is that our Christian brothers do not acknowledge,even in their history of faith, that given this status quo, their faith is rooted in the Catholic church.About the Bible, there is evidence that the early church leaders choose what books to include or not to in the compilation of the bible.So were they not actually Catholic popes,bishops and priests?I belief they were!!!!!

2007-05-03 05:48:36 · 14 answers · asked by maneno machache 1 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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I think you need to continue in your research. The FACTS are that the Roman Catholic Church is NOT the original Christian Church. Their claim of Peter being the first Pope, commissioned by Jesus himself, fails every scriptural test upon which it is 'based'. In addition, Other Church organizations existed right along through the years, The Orthodox Church being an example. The Roman Catholic Church became an organized entity by a political edict of Emperor Constantine, a devout pagan, over 300 years after many Christian Churches were in existence and thriving.

2007-05-03 06:00:02 · answer #1 · answered by Anonymous · 3 5

Thanks! Your comments are a prime example for everyone of what they will find out if they just take an honest moment to examine history. Take religion out of it! History books will prove this all by themselves!

Yes, the church leaders that choose what books to include in the bible were Catholic. It bears to reason since, quite obviously, the Protestants won't show up in history for another 1,100 years. That's a long time.

I think the next step, from what I see, is to ask someone, "Now, you know the facts. So, what are you going to do with them?"

I know a lot of very well-versed protestants devoted to their faith and prayer, very close to Jesus. They also know the history of Christianity the same as you outlined, but, they just won't take that extra, obvious step to enter into full communion with the Church that Christ gave us. To me that's like saying, "I understand everything about water. It is a necessary element I need for survival, it has cleansing properties for my body, and most importantly, I know that without water, I will die. But, sorry, I still will not drink it because of this or that or this or that." To me that's just so retarded.

Well, my personal opinion aside, I do have to realize that everyone is at a different station in life, and hopefully they will answer God's call. Until then, I keep them in my prayers.

God bless, and take care. Keep the Faith.

2007-05-05 06:54:30 · answer #2 · answered by Danny H 6 · 1 0

Well...I knew all that too, lol, and guess what, my church fully acknowledges their roots in the Catholic church. You did a good job researching the historical background, now research what both mainline Protestant denominations and individual Christians believe.

Catholics do get very anti responses on here, they are not warranted and are mostly by Catholics who have left the faith or went to a Catholic school. They are not the only belief that does though.

Catholics and Protestants are all Christians.

2007-05-03 05:56:55 · answer #3 · answered by Jelly Beans 3 · 4 0

Hi,

I heard a speaker last night. Alex Jones. His book, No Price Too High, is one you're going to want to read.

He's answered all the questions.
http://www.catholiceducation.org/articles/apologetics/ap0077.html

He didn't go looking for Catholicism. He had his own church. He was a well loved Pentecostal preacher. He decided to bring his congregation back to "apostolic" worship. So he backtracked to the early church fathers. Particularly Justin the Martyr.

http://www.earlychristianwritings.com/justin.html

He formed his worship services along the lines of what he read Justin the Martyr did back in around 150. His congregation struggled with it. Some of them left.

Then he stumbled across ETWN. And the Catholics were doing exactly what Justin the Martyr did 1900 years early. He suddenly realized all this stuff he'd been told about Constantine having ruined the church was a lie. That the church was unchanged from the time of Jesus.

He's very serious when he says it's not about us against them. Catholic vs Protestant. We all have gifts to bring. We all have purpose. He's also quite serious when he says if Protestants dug in and did some research on the early church fathers, they'd come to the same conclusion he did.

That is, if they really want to serve God.

2007-05-03 06:06:48 · answer #4 · answered by Max Marie, OFS 7 · 3 1

Yes, it was the Catholic Church leaders who chose which books were inspired by God and were to be included in the Canon of the Bible. This same Canon was used for hundreds of years, until 1529 when Martin Luther took it upon himself to remove 7 of those books. Those 7 books still remain in the Catholic Bible today. The Catholic Church is rooted in the Bible, however we also include sacred tradition as part of our faith. The Bible tells us that Sacred Tradition is to be followed alongside Sacred Scripture (2 Thess 2:15, 3:6).

God bless,
Stanbo

2007-05-03 06:11:50 · answer #5 · answered by Stanbo 5 · 1 1

whilst ever I hear those tragic issues, I continuously think of of the Catholic missionaries like Father stanley Rother who replaced into shot in the face 4 cases by fact he refused to leave South u . s . even however he knew his existence replaced into in threat. He could no longer stand the assumption of leaving his people who had stated to him a good number of cases, 'what can we do without you in case you leave' or Father Miguel professional who confronted a firing squad along with his palms outstretched in a circulate and no blind fold. He stated, 'Viva Christo Ray, previously they shot him. think of of all the forged the Catholic Church has accomplished fairly of observing all the undesirable. it relatively is out in the open now and it may well be uncovered and dealt with, all church homes have those same issues, so do colleges, etc. And no be counted what they continuously attempt to cover it up. Do you relatively have faith there are no longer any evil human beings in the Catholic Church? i'm Catholic and that i comprehend there are. There are over a million billion Catholics international huge, so what do you anticipate? do no longer lose your faith over what evil human beings do. ultimately those cover united statesare uncovered and dealt with. you should learn the forged no longer the undesirable. and in no way enable the church to comprehend your outrage approximately those issues. positioned up your inquiries on a sight it relatively is Catholic, no longer here, too many human beings on Yahoo hate Catholics and are atheists, they are no longer going to offer any smart solutions approximately this. you may continuously leave and connect the Jehova Witnesses, yet they only lost a 26 million greenback regulation tournament over an identical ingredient, alongside with a huge, fat cover up. No Church is suited. merely God is suited.

2016-10-04 08:05:03 · answer #6 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

okay, allow me once more to explain something very relevant and important about this subject.
Firstly the Apostolic authority is the universal( Catholic) and only teaching authority or else Jesus was wrong, could Jesus have been wrong? well it appears this way if Luther,Calvin etc are a greater authority than Christ Himself.
Now here is what I mean, when Jesus bestowed the keys to the kingdom on Peter it was in special recoqnistion of the fact that the Father had inspired Peter as to whom Jesus really was, and this brought the reply from Jesus, `You are Peter, and on this revelation and personal witness of faith I will build my church, now examining this it is not possible to take any other meaning from this,Jesus gave to Peter and his sucessors the Office of teaching the Good news to all nations,also he went further by impowering Peter and the Apostles to forgive sin in Christ`s name.
Now it is pretty evident that Christ bestowed something totally unique upon Peter which the other Apostles did not receive and this was the keys, and if the Kingdom of Heaven is within us as Christ said it was, then the Kingdom is here with us through the ministry of His church.
So we can conclude that whomever Peter passed this holy office to also holds the keys of Heaven and the teaching authority too, this is in fact why we call the church Catholic(universal) in Greek it is; Kath-holos, Kath= according to
and Holos= the whole:
The teaching body of Christ therefore cannot be divided as there is one Christ and one instituted church of Christ.
And so finally all Christians belong to this one holy Catholic and Apostolic church and the gates of Hell will not prevail against it although it has never stopped attacking it day by day.

2007-05-03 06:28:06 · answer #7 · answered by Sentinel 7 · 1 1

I beg to differ with you for obvious reasons, mainly because the Holy Catholic church ceased to be, as far as being visible, roughly 270 AD when the Roman Catholic church replaced the true church of God as the supposedly true church. For Romanism was the church spoken of in Revelation chapter 17. Two things come to mind are Papal system came into being, and the

INFAMOUS,

Spanish Inquisition was established. This period of spiritual darkness killed more true saint and other innocent persons; including Moslem's, over the centuries, than any other Holocaust combined. I must also note that Protestants, have their equal share of blame when it comes to killing Catholics and other Innocent persons as well.

2007-05-03 06:27:36 · answer #8 · answered by 1saintofGod 6 · 2 1

Yes, but you have one little problem you can't deal with: they weren't *Roman* Catholic bishops and priests.

In short, Rome demanded we adopt the Filioque and submit to the Pope as absolute monarch, not just recognize his place of privilege. When we rejected the innovations, the papacy schismed away rather than listen to the mind of the Church. The Schism was made permanent at the sack of Constantinople in 1204 (well permanent thus far).

Roman Catholicism, thus, is also a schism just like the Protestants. In truth, the Pope may be the first Protestant, because he individualized Christian doctrine, and it hasn't stopped developing since then. Naturally, when the Reformers broke away, they took the Pope's prerogatives onto themselves and thus have moved ever further away from Christianity.

This whole problem arose, however, because the Pope is a schismatic himself, and it caused it on a number of levels.

2007-05-03 05:59:43 · answer #9 · answered by Innokent 4 · 3 5

And that is exactly why I converted to the catholic church, I personally do not put a lot of time reading the bible any more but I certainly believe in the wisdom Christ taught. may God bless.

2007-05-03 05:59:05 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 4 2

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