This is for the Jewish religion?

Question

Back in the olden times Jesus was supposed to be the messiah of the Jewish people and the Jewish religion. However the Jewish people shunned him, and did not accept him. So my question to you is this. If your messiah does come how will you accept him? How will you know that hes the messiah and not just shun him off, like you did Jesus. Why would all of a sudden accept him?Whats your criteria?

Not trying to offend anybody, just wondering
Please only serious answers, much appreciated

okay maybe jis killers werent Jews but you cant deny that they dont accept him as their messiah

and for Leslie... how can the roman CATHOLICS shun Jesus

Answer 1

We do not believe that it is prophesied that the Messiah will be crucified. We do not believe that the Messiah will be the son of G-d. We do not believe that he will be raised from the dead any more than anyone else. We do not believe that he will appear twice, in what some Christians call a second coming. We do not believe that the Messiah will be our "savior" in the sense that he will redeem us from our sins.

These are all fascinating claims to make concerning anyone, but they are all irrelevant to the Messiah for whom the Jews have awaited these three thousand years. None of these things are prophesied in the Jewish Bible.

What then is this Messiah for whom we wait? The Messiah will be a mortal man, born of a normal man and woman. He will be of the undisputed scion of David through his father. He will become uncontested ruler in the Land of Israel over all the People of Israel, that is, all Twelve Tribes of Israel. He will have at least one son, who will be king after the Messiah dies a normal death at an advanced age.

He will be as described by the Prophet Isaiah (Isaiah 11:2-4): "full of wisdom and understanding, counsel and might, knowledge and the fear of G-d . . . he will smite the tyrant with the rod of his mouth, and slay the wicked with the breath of his lips . . ." (Maimonides explains this last as merely a parable, and not to be taken literally.)

Still, the Messiah will primarily be a prince of peace. As it says (Isaiah 52:7) "How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of the messenger who announces peace."

The Messiah will bring an end to all suffering and war. He will rescue the Children of Israel from exile. He will teach the world how to revere truth, and they will all return to G-d (though not necessarily to Judaism). All forms of warfare will be abolished.

The Torah will be strengthened by the teachings and practices of the Messiah. It will not be weakened nor changed in the slightest.

The Jews will no longer be subjugated nor oppressed by other nations. (In fact, there will be no oppression or subjugation anywhere in the world, by anyone against anyone.) The Jews will be free in the Land of Israel. We will have the Holy Temple once again. We will have the full body of the Law restored by the full Sanhedrin and all lesser courts. And the Messiah will do all this on his first try. Indeed, this is how we will know he is the Messiah.

It will be through these signs that he will be recognized. It will not be through miracles, nor through resurrection of the dead, nor through any new creation. It will be through the total Redemption we will undergo (as described in brief above) that we will know the Messiah. And in truth, it is not for the Messiah that we eagerly wait, but for the Redemption itself. The Messiah is merely G-d's messenger and vehicle for that Redemption.

The man the Christians worship may have been a good person, and he may have taught many good things. (Although I hasten to point out that there are many teachings in the Christian Bible that are completely unacceptable to Orthodox Jews, and incompatible to the teachings of the Torah.) But he was not the Messiah for whom we await and have long awaited. He may have been crucified, and that's a horrible thing. But that merely proves to us that he was not the Messiah.

He was not the son of G-d any more than we all are; precisely no more or less. The very thought is repugnant to a Jewish person. G-d having a son in that manner? We shudder at the suggestion.

Nor do we believe he was resurrected. But even if he was, that would not make him the Messiah.

All this that is claimed about Jesus is irrelevant. It has nothing to do with the Messiah. There will indeed be a resurrection, but not at the time of the Messiah's coming. That will be later. Much later.

The Jewish faith has no place for most of the Christian Messiah beliefs. Nor is there any way to reconcile Jesus with the Jewish concept of the Messiah. The two concepts have very little in common.

We still await the Messiah, and our faith is still strong.

One more thing: There is a common misconception that Jews supposedly hate Jesus. The truth is that we have no feelings about him at all for good or bad. It does not occupy our minds, because it is completely irrelevant to us and to our religion. We simply don't care at all. Jesus is about as relevant to us as Mithras, or Zeus, or Apollo, Osiris, Attis, Odin, Ishtar, Tammuz, Enlil, or any of the many other ancient gods of other civilizations. We don't hate them either. We simply don't care, and we never think about any of them too much either. Those of us who know a little more about the subject might on occasion wonder if Jesus really existed, but in any case we don't really attribute the creation of the christian religion to Jesus, but to Paul, about whom we don't much think about either. Our only emotion is invested against those who try to get Jews to believe in christian beliefs. Other than that, we really couldn't care less. We don't hate jesus -- we don't see the point.

http://www.simpletoremember.com/vitals/jewsandjesus.htm
http://www.beingjewish.com/faqs/faq2.html
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Answer 2

1.) The Jewish people did not “shun” Yeshua, they embraced Him, at first. …. Until……
2.) The Jewish LEADERS decided that Yeshua was a threat to their power and decided to have Him killed. So, who is guilty? The folks who put out the murder contract or the people who actually did the deed? I think both. But, before you blame just Jews and Romans, consider that the Roman army was made up of volunteers and conscripts from different nationalities from all over the Roman Empire, so, in effect; all mankind became guilty of the blood of the Messiah.
3.) )If I am not mistaken, the Sanhedrin has already been restored last year and is in the process of deciding how it will work and influence Judaism. Ezekiel 37 is talking about the World to Come, or as Christians call it The Kingdom of God. There is a lot that is going to happen before that, including the return of the Messiah. There will not be world peace before that time. Using Ezekiel 37 is an over simplistic answer to a question that has proofs scattered throughout the “Old Testament”. If you would go to www.biblestudy.org, you should be able to click on the questions section and get a much fuller explanation.
4.)The Jews deny their own scriptures which even give a timetable as to when the Messiah will appear: Daniel 9:25-27. Note that it says here that He will be cut off in the midst of the week, it can be proven that the crucifixion was on the 4th day of the week and that the resurrection was actually on the 7th day Sabbath, this is one of the sections of scripture that backs this up. There is a Hebrew Calendar program available at: http://www.cbcg.org/Calendar/index.html
, if you plug in the date 30AD (the correct date of the crucifixion), it will show that the 1st Day of Unleavened Bread (the High Day of John 19:31) was on the 5th day of the week. On that website there should be a fuller explanation of Daniel 9.

There are just too many Old Testament (Hebrew) Scriptures to list here that prove Yeshua is the Messiah. If you really want to learn “Why” I suggest that you explore the above web sites along with a few more that I will post in the reference section.

Answer 3

The Christian concept of messiah has taken on a very different meaning than the Jewish prophetic vision of an annointed ( mosiach ) King of Israel of the Davidic line who performs very specific acts that are world changing. There would be no possible way anyone could mistake if these events had transpired, thus the person who brings about these prophecied events would be the Messiah. Jews would of course, never consider this person as capable of pardoning sin or being prayed to or through, as all three of those acts are transgressions of direct commands in the Torah ( law ) that the Messiah is to uphold. The Jewish messiah is a fully human king who will leave progeny to rule in a kingdom on an earth in peace.

The Davidic Messiah is to first break the yolk of religious and persecution for the Jew, then for all mankind. One of the prophecies is that in the messianic age, no one will have necessity to teach his brother who or what God is, as it will be in the heart of all humankind. It doesn't say all will be Jews. The prophecy says all will know God.

Thus, the criteria for acceptance of who the messiah is hasn't changed from the beginnings of the prophecy's appearance, and why there have been many messiah hopefuls over the centuries. Simeon Bar Kochbah who lived after the time of Jesus and who was an actual annointed King of Israel had a FAR greater Jewish following in his lifetime than Jesus. He was actually declared by all Israel in his lifetime to be the Messiah when he began fulfullment of SOME of the prophecies upon temporarily breaking the yolk of Roman oppression. Upon his death at the hands of the Romans, and no further prophetic fulfillment, he too was abandoned as the Messiah.

Answer 4

I'm going to assume you mean Roman Catholic religious practices, versus "Roman" per se - which would be pagan gods similar to the Greek mythological gods. The Roman Catholic tradition imitates Orthodox Judaism in many ways in ceremony and dress, while also incorporating some pagan elements and practices from ancient Rome.

Answer 5

simple

when we have world peace, a fully restored temple in Jerusalem, a restored davidic dynasty, and a working sanhedrin we will know the man who did this is the Messiah.

just like Ezekiel said

Ezekiel Chapter 37 verses 24-28
And David my servant shall be king over them; and they shall all have one shepherd. they shall also follow My judgments and observe My statutes, and do them. And they shall dwell in the land that I have given to Jacob my servant, in which your fathers have dwelt and they shall dwell there, they and their children, and their children's children forever; and my servant David shall be their prince forever. Moreover, I will make a covenant of peace with them, it shall be an everlasting covenant with them, which I will give them; and I will multiply them and I will set my sanctuary in the midst of them forevermore. And my tabernacle shall be with them: and I will be their G-d and they will be my people. Then the nations shall know that I am the L-rd who sanctifies Israel, when My sanctuary will be in the midst of them forevermore.

Answer 6

It will depend on HOW He comes.
If he shows up downtown on a street corner, then we know he's false.
If he shows up from the sky, on a white horse, to judge the earth, then we know He's the real deal.

The bible states clearly in non-symbolic language how he will make his appearance, and to avoid any Christ-wannabes.

Answer 7

what are you talking about dude? all of jesus' follwers were jews, his killers were non jews.

Answer 8

um whoever said jewish people shunned jesus. it was the roman catholics who killed him. jewish people just dont believe jesus is "g-d's son" only bcuz we are all g-ds children
duh