If the Jews of his day refused to believe christ was for real...?

Question

...why do you think they were wrong? They were his own people and they thought he was a fake - up close and personal, too.

What's your take on this...? It sort of makes you scratch your head a little, doesn't it?

Maybe his miracles weren’t so miraculous to everyone, hmmm?

...perhaps it was common knowledge that he was just a nutter, eh?

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I have to share my thought on some of these answers...:

This is my favorite so far (though I won't be choosing it as "Best":
"Jews don't believe in Jesus. So you're ................dumb." LOL It's KOOL.

Next of all and I really like this answer... It's honest and it's straight to the point the way i see it..: "
You know at least Muslims can say that Mohamed was accepted by the vast majority of his people (Arabs)

99.9% of Jews rejected Jesus in his lifetime. That includes the ones he met.

You would think that his own people would be the best judge of character if this guy was the real deal.

but what dose a little Jew like me know =P" ...a very good response. Thanks.
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Answer 1

We do not believe that it is prophesied that the Messiah will be crucified. We do not believe that the Messiah will be the son of G-d. We do not believe that he will be raised from the dead any more than anyone else. We do not believe that he will appear twice, in what some Christians call a second coming. We do not believe that the Messiah will be our "savior" in the sense that he will redeem us from our sins.

These are all fascinating claims to make concerning anyone, but they are all irrelevant to the Messiah for whom the Jews have awaited these three thousand years. None of these things are prophesied in the Jewish Bible.

What then is this Messiah for whom we wait? The Messiah will be a mortal man, born of a normal man and woman. He will be of the undisputed scion of David through his father. He will become uncontested ruler in the Land of Israel over all the People of Israel, that is, all Twelve Tribes of Israel. He will have at least one son, who will be king after the Messiah dies a normal death at an advanced age.

He will be as described by the Prophet Isaiah (Isaiah 11:2-4): "full of wisdom and understanding, counsel and might, knowledge and the fear of G-d . . . he will smite the tyrant with the rod of his mouth, and slay the wicked with the breath of his lips . . ." (Maimonides explains this last as merely a parable, and not to be taken literally.)

Still, the Messiah will primarily be a prince of peace. As it says (Isaiah 52:7) "How beautiful upon the mountains are the feet of the messenger who announces peace."

The Messiah will bring an end to all suffering and war. He will rescue the Children of Israel from exile. He will teach the world how to revere truth, and they will all return to G-d (though not necessarily to Judaism). All forms of warfare will be abolished.

The Torah will be strengthened by the teachings and practices of the Messiah. It will not be weakened nor changed in the slightest.

The Jews will no longer be subjugated nor oppressed by other nations. (In fact, there will be no oppression or subjugation anywhere in the world, by anyone against anyone.) The Jews will be free in the Land of Israel. We will have the Holy Temple once again. We will have the full body of the Law restored by the full Sanhedrin and all lesser courts. And the Messiah will do all this on his first try. Indeed, this is how we will know he is the Messiah.

It will be through these signs that he will be recognized. It will not be through miracles, nor through resurrection of the dead, nor through any new creation. It will be through the total Redemption we will undergo (as described in brief above) that we will know the Messiah. And in truth, it is not for the Messiah that we eagerly wait, but for the Redemption itself. The Messiah is merely G-d's messenger and vehicle for that Redemption.

The man the Christians worship may have been a good person, and he may have taught many good things. (Although I hasten to point out that there are many teachings in the Christian Bible that are completely unacceptable to Orthodox Jews, and incompatible to the teachings of the Torah.) But he was not the Messiah for whom we await and have long awaited. He may have been crucified, and that's a horrible thing. But that merely proves to us that he was not the Messiah.

He was not the son of G-d any more than we all are; precisely no more or less. The very thought is repugnant to a Jewish person. G-d having a son in that manner? We shudder at the suggestion.

Nor do we believe he was resurrected. But even if he was, that would not make him the Messiah.

All this that is claimed about Jesus is irrelevant. It has nothing to do with the Messiah. There will indeed be a resurrection, but not at the time of the Messiah's coming. That will be later. Much later.

The Jewish faith has no place for most of the Christian Messiah beliefs. Nor is there any way to reconcile Jesus with the Jewish concept of the Messiah. The two concepts have very little in common.

We still await the Messiah, and our faith is still strong.

One more thing: There is a common misconception that Jews supposedly hate Jesus. The truth is that we have no feelings about him at all for good or bad. It does not occupy our minds, because it is completely irrelevant to us and to our religion. We simply don't care at all. Jesus is about as relevant to us as Mithras, or Zeus, or Apollo, Osiris, Attis, Odin, Ishtar, Tammuz, Enlil, or any of the many other ancient gods of other civilizations. We don't hate them either. We simply don't care, and we never think about any of them too much either. Those of us who know a little more about the subject might on occasion wonder if Jesus really existed, but in any case we don't really attribute the creation of the christian religion to Jesus, but to Paul, about whom we don't much think about either. Our only emotion is invested against those who try to get Jews to believe in christian beliefs. Other than that, we really couldn't care less. We don't hate jesus -- we don't see the point.

http://www.simpletoremember.com/vitals/jewsandjesus.htm
http://www.beingjewish.com/faqs/faq2.html
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Answer 2

During the time of the Roman occupation there were many messiah hopefuls who lived. Some had greater or lesser followings, but all were abandoned as being throught of as a messiah upon their death and the lack of fulfillment of the prophecies. The Christian concept of "Christ" bears little resemblance to the Jewish prophecy of Messiah. Breaking the yolk of religiouis and political persecution first for Israel and then for ALL people of the world is one of the primary prophecies. Of course if a person was not a physically anointed king of Israel to begin with, that would preclude the individual from being "the" Messiah.

The Christians have ( depending on their particular branche's doctrine) a belief that Jesus is capable of pardoning sin and is a part of a triune godhead. Those are beliefs entirely incompatible with the commandments given to Israel. No one who honored Torah in faith could worship or pray through a human, messiah or not.

It doesn't make me scratch my heard at all because it was as clear to the Jews of that day as it is now, that the requirements for the prophecy of the Davidic messiah have not transpired. When they happen, everyone on the planet will know and without any sales pitches necessary.

Answer 3

You know at least Muslims can say that Mohamed was accepted by the vast majority of his people (Arabs)

99.9% of Jews rejected Jesus in his lifetime. That includes the ones he met.

You would think that his own people would be the best judge of character if this guy was the real deal.

but what dose a little Jew like me know =P

Answer 4

The Jews will never take him to be the chosen One during that time because the very sign between God and Israel which was said to stay "forever" was desecrated by him. It was the Sabbath Observation which he defended arrogantly by saying he is the Lord of the Sabbath.
Exodus 31:14-17
In the Old Testament: God said to honor thy Father and they mother,.
In Jesus time he said He who does not hate his father, his mother and brothers or sisters, shall not be worthy to come with him.
He reduced the Ten commandments to two and claim the two surpasses all that were written in the ten commandments. I never scratch my head on that because the Jews were right about that.
It is true that he was chosen but along the line he got to his head and did what he is not supposed to do. To make show off of his given gifts. Read Isaiah 14: all throughout. Remember who fits the description to be the Morning Star in Revelation 22:16 and read Matthew 26:64 who want to sit enthroned in heaven and sitted among the Gods of heaven.
There is only One god and God is not stupid to come down and take human flesh and claim himself to be the Son just to be killed for the sins of man He only created. If He flooded the world of Noah, Destroyed Soddom and Gomorrah and threathen to destroy Nineveh. Why as His last recourse to make human realize their mistakes will He offer Himself? Did that change the world? Aren't we much worse in these generation? Did people learn or did people fall into a trap of the Greatest lie ever told?That is Roman mythology with Egyptian and Greek influences combined.
Christian religions almost made the Old Testament obsolete as if God have changed His mind.
Numbers 23:19 "God is not a man, that He should lie, nor a Son of man that He should change His mind. does He speak and not act? does he promise and not fulfill?"

Answer 5

The Jewish people generally think of the Tanakh and Moses as being for them, while the NT and Jesus are for the Gentiles.

If any Jew believes that Jesus was the Messiah, they were considered traitors to the Jewish people. They regard the NT as a forbidden and anti-Semitic book.

Yeshua fulfilled the prophecies about the first coming of the Messiah in the Hebrew Scriptures. He fills full Israel's religious system.

They did not accept because they did not believe the report of the prophet Isaiah (Isaiah 53:1). They knew the Scriptures.

There was a conflict between Yeshua and the rulers of that day, that is the Pharisees in particular. They were friendly to Him at first, but then broke from Him because of questions over the Sabbath day. He stated that He was Lord of the Sabbath and was accused of breaking the Sabbath, so they considered this blasphemous.

This caused bitterness and hatred for Yeshua. The Pharisees admitted that He had power to heal and perform miracles but tried to trick Him and discredit Him on a couple of occasions. They plotted His death. Me thinks they also didn't like the fact that other Jewish people were listening to Him. Power does do strange things to men's minds. Their hearts have been hardened for now.

Answer 6

For the same reason that lots of people refuse to believe..
However, Jews have had it handed down for centuries about their ancestors having been with Him, seen all the things He did, some believed..some did not...The reason they didn't was because they were expecting someone who would come with an army and kill all their enemies..not the Jesus who came.
It was their misguided thoughts that made them disbelive scripture in the OT that told them how He was coming.
Today many Jews like to hold on to all their ceremonies etc..

People today CHOOSE to not even look into jewish history to find that Jesus did exist and did do that stuff..but a lot of Jews wanted a different Jesus.
People today would rather go about doing their own thing rather than to believe there is a higher power who has the keys to life and death.
Live and let live is the best thing we can all do.

Answer 7

The Jews believed that a Messiah was going to show up on earth, end the oppression of a major enemy (Rome), and would establish Israel as the reigning world power. When Jesus died on the cross, they realized that either a) their prophecy wasn't true, or b) hadn't happened yet. They saw His crucifixion as a sign of weakness, and not a selfless act of love and compassion. Before Jesus handed himself over for the prelude to the crucifixion, the Jews actually praised Him for his miracles, and fully expected Him to deliver Israel into the hands of God. So they didn't always reject him.

They, like the Muslims, believe that Jesus was a prophet, or a divine messenger. They also prophesied that one of their prophets would be persecuted and executed, but didn't view his actions in the same light as the Christians view it today. We (Christians) believe that Jesus Christ died on the cross so that he may absolve our sins if we asked. Jews just believe Christ was a mediocre prophet, and a trouble maker. But, they DID believe in him. No Jew would deny that Jesus ever existed. No Muslim would either.

This is definitive proof that Jesus Christ was real, and did exactly what the Holy Bible said he did.

Answer 8

Jesus replaced into maximum probable a genuine historic guy or woman. whether, there is no reason to have confidence that the Gospels are precise bills of his existence, to any extent further than "Abraham Lincoln: Vampire Hunter" must be taken as biographical. of course, the components you cite don't have something to do with the reason that I, as a naturalist, have confidence Jesus existed. they are in basic terms rumour. Pliny the greater youthful and Tacitus are the two via your individual admission born an prolonged time after Jesus's meant dying, and that i think an identical of the others you quote even however you do no longer grant their beginning years. If the tale were totally fabricated, they does not have prevalent; they are in basic terms waiting to bypass in accordance with what they have been advised via others. Their components additionally do no longer validate any of the content fabric of the Gospels, basically that there replaced right into a guy named Jesus who replaced into survived via a cult of followers. the easy undeniable fact that persons believed in Jesus interior the 1st century does not teach that he existed.

Answer 9

Christianity came about 100 years after his crucifixion.
Jesus was just a reform Rabbi, but did not rebelled against Israel but agains the Romains.

The 12 disciples were just very good story tellers, since they were no newspapers, TV, radio. So someone has to spread the words, and guess what...distortion came over the year, since nothing was in writing until the 4th Century AD.

Answer 10

Um,there were Jews who believed in Jesus.For example,every author of the New Testament (except for Luke) was Jewish.There were many other Jewish believers in Jesus,but unfortunately relations were strained between Jewish believers in Jesus and others Jews,after the Bar Kochba revolt in which the believers in Jesus didn't want to rally around a man who claimed to be the Messiah.