So when you die and your spirit continues without the flesh that passed you are to become two separate beings? When a prophet speaks with God in the spirit then the prophet is now two separate beings? When a man is resurrected is he judged twice once for the spirit and once for the flesh or are they both one soul? Is a man more than one because he has both flesh and also a spirit? we are made in God's image and we are more than flesh and God is Father, Son and Holy Spirit...they are one God and you are one soul.
Edit Starjump???? Jesus said not to worship him??? Is that in the Bible or are you quoting the Qu'ran? The Bible clearly shows people worshiped Christ and he never stopped them.
2007-05-02 06:21:34
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answered by djmantx 7
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I am a Christian but all Christians do NOT believe in the Trinity. I believe in Oneness (God is One not Three in One). Many dont know that 1 John 5: 7-8 was added to the bible and was not found in hundreds of Greek manuscripts but only 8 later manuscripts and in the first 4 it was only a note. I believe that God the Father is the only God according to (1 Cor 8:6 etc.) and God (Father) manifested himself in flesh which is Jesus (1 Tim 3: 16) and in Jesus dwells the Fulness of the Godhead bodily (Colo 2: 9). Jesus is God by the Father dwelling in his body, he is not a seperate person. People don't understand John 1: 1 (logos). The word is not seperate from the Father. According to Ireneaus "An disciple of John the apostle" The Father was the only Fulness, he also wrote that if their was another besides the Father, then the Father would not be the Fulness at all nor would he be God (Notice here that Ireneaus did not say God was the Fulness but he said the Father, if he Said "God" then Trinitarians will say "he was talking about Father, Son, and Holy Ghost") Why did he not say the Son and Holy Ghost was also, this is because God (Father) is not three, Jesus the flesh was the Son not a seperate person in the Godhead. Trinitarians like Turtillian, wrote about the trinity but was a later writer than others who opposed it & he also admitted that the majority of Christians in his day were Modalist (Oneness), Justin Martyr tried to mix Christianity and Philosophy. Many Trinitarians try to use them as a reference.
This Trinity concept is truly polytheistic and they try to come up analogies to support their belief but the bible only speaks of One God who manifested himself in flesh. READ HISTORY. Many Trinitarians i believe are confused because they all don't speak of the Trinity the same, some say, all three are seperate (Polytheism) yet they deny they believe in three Gods, and some trinitarians say they are not inseperable (these type of trinitarians are close to my believe in Oneness but they use trinity in a way, they are not far from the truth.
Hermas a prophet of Rome was a friend of The apostle Paul and he wrote that the Son IS Holy Spirit and they are not seperate. Clement of Rome was also a friend of Paul and he wrote also that the Son is the Spirit and not seperate, so if both of these people were opposed to the believe in three in one then Paul who was their friend was too, If the Trinity was true them Paul would have considered them as heretics but he didn't. The early church also did not believe the Holy Ghost was a seperate person but was the power and action of God only.
Jesus is God because the Father who is the only deity, dwells in him. Jesus calls the Father his God because flesh does have a God, Jesus humanity is subordinate to deity, the deity is not the so called God the Son (which the bible never mentions a God the Son) the Deity of Jesus is the Father.
Isaiah 9: 6, Isaiah 63: 16 calls Jesus the FATHER also, Malachi said "don't we all have but ONE Father, their are not two Fathers like Some trinitarians claim but theirs only One and he dwells inside the body of Christ, thus making Jesus God. Not seperate
2007-05-06 07:06:20
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answered by Anonymous
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The father is almighty God, Jehovah. He gives us his personal name at
Psalms 83:18.
The definition of his name is "causes to become". Jehovah is the creator. All other were created.
Jesus was the 1st creation. Through him the other things were created. John 17:5 he was along side God before coming to earth. He sits at Jehovah's Right hand once resurrected Psm 110:1
Jesus admitted that only God, the father knows the time of the end in Matt 24:36
He prayed to his father, not himself for strength while in the garden of Gethsemane before his arrest. Matt 26:33 He gave all credit to Jehovah and wanted no glory for himself. At Mark 10:18 he corrected a man that referred to him as "Good Teacher", Jesus said "why do you call me good? Nobody is good, except on, God.
John 14:28 Jesus explains how God is greater than he is.
The holy spirit is Jehovah's active force.
It does not have a name. It is a force, not a person. It is directed by God to accomplish his purposes. Those serving God receive it and are guided by it.
Matt 3:16, 1 Corinthians 2:12
I think it is important to show the scripture. These are not my own thoughts. They are from the bible. Either you believe it or you don't.
Lastly John 14:20
Jesus is in union with Jehovah, we are in union with Jesus, Jesus is in union with us. Are we now God? Of course not!
2007-05-02 13:59:37
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answered by I wanna be a fish 4
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According to the Athanasian Creed: "So the Father is God, the Son is God, and the Holy Ghost is God. And yet they are not Three Gods, but One God." True, that would be polytheism.
But the Bible says that Jehovah is the Most High God. Ps. 83:18. At John 17:3, Jesus called his Father the ONLY true God. "Only" means: one of a kind; unique. So if Jesus' Father is unque as the true God, that means Jesus is the only true God. Jesus is NOT God; he is God's Son. John 10:36
Jehovah is the God and Father of Jesus Christ. Col. 1:3
The trinity is based on the Catholic Athanasian Creed, not on the Bible.
2007-05-02 13:17:36
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answered by LineDancer 7
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No.God the Son (Jesus) is fully, completely God. God the Father is fully, completely God. And God the Holy Spirit is fully, completely God. Yet there is only one God. In our world, with our limited human experience, it's tough to understand the Trinity. But from the beginning we see God this way in Scripture. Notice the plural pronouns "us" and "our" in Genesis 1:26 -- Then God said, "Let us make man in our image, in our likeness, and let them rule over the fish of the sea and the birds of the air, over the livestock, over all the earth, and over all the creatures that move along the ground."
Though not a complete list, here is some other Scripture that shows God is one, in Trinity:
"Hear, O Israel! The LORD is our God, the LORD is one!" (Deut. 6:4)
"I am the LORD, and there is no other; Besides Me there is no God." (Isa. 45:5)
There is no God but one. (1Cor. 8:4)
And after being baptized, Jesus went up immediately from the water; and behold, the heavens were opened, and he saw the Spirit of God descending as a dove, and coming upon Him, and behold, a voice out of the heavens, saying, "This is My beloved Son, in whom I am well-pleased." (Matt. 3:16-17)
"Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit." (Matt. 28:19)
Jesus said: "I and the Father are one." (John 10:30)
"He who has seen Me has seen the Father." (John 14:9)
"He who beholds Me beholds the One who sent Me." (John 12:45)
2007-05-02 16:23:45
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answered by TFCF Ministry 5
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I am a son to my father
I am a father to my son
I am a brother to my sister.
Am I three different people?
Well, of course not. I am one person with three manifestations or roles or whatever term you want to use.
Think of water. one cup of water can be liquid, solid or gas, three manifestations of same one cup.
God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Spirit are one God, three manifestations of the same one God. True, the Bible itself does not use the word trinity and I wish to God it would have never become a part of the whole theological discussion centuries ago but it has done nothing but confuse people and give others ammunition for silly arguements.
However, in the scriptures you will find these three manifestations of the One God working in the lives of Humanity at various times in history.
2007-05-02 13:29:04
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answered by Moose 5
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would God almighty put himself on a cross to save mankind when he in fact created mankind? the most powerful being in the universe would get killed to fool up peeps into thinking he done saved them? the trinity is a made up doctrine that goes back to Babylonian times . Its based on lies...here is some truth:
john1:18 no man has seen almighty God at any time.
Matt 24:36 concerning the day and hour,nobody knows,neither the angels,nor the son,but only the father in heaven...Jesus is the firstborn of creation and he is A God. but he is not God! He is second in command.
2007-05-02 13:30:21
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answered by Anonymous
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The Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit are inseparable. They are three persons in one Godhead. Each of them acts as God because they are always in agreement----they never disagree on anything; therefore, they are never separated. Christianity is pure monotheism because there is only one God, the Lord God.
2007-05-02 13:20:57
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answered by Preacher 6
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Taken like that yes. However Jesus told us not to worship him or anyone else for that matter, only God. Monotheism.
2007-05-02 13:27:21
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answered by Starjumper the R&S Cow 7
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I just came to see if R&S has changed ,it hasn't i see. I don't believe in the trinity,still.
GOD BLESS
I knew i could count on you guys ,to give thumbs down.
2007-05-02 13:19:59
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answered by TCC Revolution 6
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