Why are americans always arguing about illegals being here?

Question

sometimes these crazy mexicans get on my nerves to but my dad is from mexico and he took the time to get papers. so now he is on the right path. but why are all the americans trying to say that they mexicans are taking the jobs away? do the americans really wanna work the crappy jobs for really little pay? like for example my husband hangs live chickens for a living. his brother pulls the insides out of the chickens. do you really wanna do that? the mexicans are the ones that are keeping this counrty going. and if you dont think what im saying is reasonable, then dont run you mouth with some foul words trying to anger me just tell me your opinion. not your foul language. thanks.
And im sorry in advance if i offended anyone. i really didnt mean to.

i know they always go to the emergency rooms. and that where the government needs to buck up and do something about it. i should know just cuz i have mexican family doesnt mean i love them to death. half of those people have medicaid. i couldnt even get medicaid. i was pregnant with my first child and could even get the help i needed. but i luckily i have indian blood so i got my healthcare paid for. but its not our problem to be dealing with. the govenment and the president are the ones that need to put a stop to them getting all our benifits. they should have to pay cash for everything. and not get any help. yes make them pay for the things they need.

yes and the criminal ones should be deported. i cant stand the ones that think they are big and bad. if they wanna fight and shoot people. then they should be able to take the punishment when they send them back to mexico. i really understand that point.

im only talking about the hispanics becuase thats all i ever see on the tv. i never really hear anything about japanese, or chinese or whatever else.

Answer 1

Not all the facts are known to everyone. I personally admire the Mexicans that I have met. You have a valid point, they do many jobs that Americans are unwilling to do.

Unfortunately, the problem that many people have, along with myself, is that our schools are suffering, as well as our healthcare, due to lack of paying taxes, and unpaid ER visits. (this would be unregistered aliens ONLY).

I admire those that are willing to go through the proper channels, and unfortunately, the ones who don't, and that goes for not only Mexican citizens, but other countries as well, make it harder for the honest ones who don't try to "shortcut"

Also, many of these people send the bulk of there money back home, whick only sends $$ OUT of the US and into the coffers of the other country.

There are pros and cons, I have just as many of each to offer, but I would like to let you know that I admire you and your family for their hard and HONEST work!!

Answer 2

You ready for this?
I think you are VERY reasonable, and this is a good question.
I can see your point, and they are correct - not many legal Americans want to do jobs that "Mexicans" (El Salvadorans, Chinese, Korean, whatever) are doing.

HOWever, I have an issue with illegals of any country being here. Why? Well one, they are called illegals for a reason, hence the term illegals.

Two : Most illegals have zero insurance, no health care, collect welfare, and become eligible for Social Security (don't get started on THAT mess). This becomes a drain on the USofA.

Yes they pay taxes, state and some federal. Yes they may contribute to society. Your dad did the right thing by doing the paper work and became legal. No harm, no foul. It's those that do not that anger many Americans.

Keep in mind also that angry people target the closest, easiest sect they can, and unfortunately illegals immigrants are close at hand.

Answer 3

Are you serious? It's a very big issue. It shows how little America is protected. Any criminal or major terrorist could just trapse over the border and be protected more than the average citizen is. Not only that, but the people who are coming are mostly uneducated and unable to find jobs with decent pay. The less you make, the bigger the tax breaks. So even if they do pay taxes, the rest of America has to split the bill to pay for services they use... you know, like street cleaning, schools, welfare, hospitals, etc.
Yes, they do take jobs. They may be jobs the average educated adult in America don't want... but we do have plenty of struggling Americans who wouldn't mind cutting the heads off of chickens to survive. No, they wouldn't work for as cheap as an illegal would... and the fact that an illegal would take such low pay is part of the problem. Have you seen the price of food lately? Those companies can afford to pay their employees a decent wage. Buisness' use them as slave labor. Do you condone that?? Does your husband like being exploited?
Mexicans do not keep this country going. Americans keep America going. The fact of the matter is that Mexico needs America... not the other way around. If it was the other way around Americans would be jumping the border into Mexico.
You may think that them working for pennies helps America... but it doesn't. It hurts the majority of the population. Besides, illegal immigrants use up way more than they bring in... and that's a true fact. Prove me wrong if you can.

Answer 4

I think the problem has arisen because of such a large influx of Hispanic people all over the U. S. in just the past ten years. Ten years back,in my community alone, there was less then a dozen Hispanic children in our public school system. There was only one when I was in high school. Today approximately one fourth to one third of the children enrolled in our public schools are Hispanic. That is an extreme and shocking change.
Do I think they have less of a right to be here then I do. No, that would be wrong. I do think they should of come here legally tho. This has caused many problems and much pain for their children. Do I want to gut chickens? Yes, I have done it and have many relatives who do it annually and they are not Hispanic, so don't tell me only Hispanics gut chickens. Since when is wanting to make a living a crappy job. That is raciest. Americans have been hard working people well before the large influx of Hispanic people. You wouldn't be here if we ran our country like Mexico, now would you?

Answer 5

Oh no. This was not meant to inflame anyone at all. Sure it wasn't. This was a very inflammatory statement, though a boring and rhetorical one that has been argued too many times in the past.

Yes, there are plenty of legals and naturals who would be more then willing to do those jobs so they could put food in the mouths of their children and families. What makes you think that they wouldn't want to support their household?

And FYI, not all illegals get paid minimal wages. My husband is in the deli business and when they come in for lunch they pull out wads of cash to pay.

This argument is getting so boring and outdated. The problem is that illegals come here as criminals and have more advantages then the people who came here legally and were born here. There are many organizations that will help them pay their rent and put food on the table, along with their off the books jobs and not to mention once they have even one child here they are entitled to welfare benefits in that child's name. Oh, and the emergency room visits that they never pay for causing some hospitals to have to close their doors because they can't afford to stay open due to the amount of care they give out in relation to the amount of payment they receive.

So, let's dissolve your arguement. Yes legals and naturals would be more then willing to work. This is the 2nd year in a row that it has been proved that this country will NOT collapse without illegal aliens working with the ridiculous 'strike' they had.

Hate to say it, but Americans are the ones keeping this country together. Mexicans, illegal ones and ones who are here only to use this country for it's financial benefits, are draining the economy in many respects; through welfare and by taking the money they made and sending to back to Mexico. I don't understand how you think that helps our economy.

Answer 6

Honey I thought your question was about illegals, seems to me that it's just about Mexicans. This is an illegal immigrant situation you're talking about right? Then be fair Mexican, Asian, Africans, etc. Don't sound so ignorant. I'm not taking offense either, I don't support illegal aliens, but I don't mind the people who do things the legal way to be here. The majority of American families have legally migrated here. Perhaps even yours. I suggest you don't assume things about people or a group of people since you don't have any statistics for proof. All you have are your eyes and an assumption.

Answer 7

It's better having a crappy job then no job. Most of my family (I'm as white as they come, 90% Irish with a little German and Scottish) works 14 hour days as fishermen or in factories but recently Mexicans have been up this way taking the jobs and bringing a lot of problems and the worse part is they constantly paint themselves as nothing but victims of the "evil white people" in the newspapers. If you knew Down East Maine you'd know that yes it's 99% white but it's also like 40some percent below the poverty line.

Answer 8

Yes what you say has some sense to it but I hung Chicken as a summer job When I Was 16 caught them at 17 and was the nastiest one of all killer for 5 year at the chicken plant when I got out of school. If they want to come over fine there is a legal way to do that and if they can't get it done that way there is probably a good reason behind it

Answer 9

We argue because we are sick of criminals demanding rights they don't have. They are not suppose to be here!

There is also the problem that tax payers shell out about $50 BILLION each year for the illegal aliens. CA alone is over $9 BILLION.

Then there's the schools that are being destroyed. Our health care system is in shambles with ERs closing - they can't turn them away and they can't afford to stay open. (My daughter had to go to a hospital 50 miles away when her baby was born because the one 5 minutes away was filled up with illegals.)

Then there's the diseases they bring that had been eliminated due to immunizations. Oh, then there's stealing jobs Americans want, extra identity theft, crime, drugs and gangs! LAPD stated that most of the gangs are Mexican.

Don't forget about the fact that they don't pay taxes (we pay over $22,400 each year for each family and that includes them paying sales and property taxes (from their rent).

This is NOT a racist issue. I don't care where they come from. If they are here illegally, they MUST leave! THAT IS THE LAW!

These are FACTS, not opinion. There is nothing being said that is inappropriate. If you don't like all this, sorry it's reality!

Answer 10

Well, it is a big deal right now. Your dad getting the proper documentation is a different thing from the millions of people coming over illegally.

It boils down to a lot of factors, some good, some bad. Xenophobic racism, real fears about economic drains and pressures on public services, ignorance, culture clash, etc. I think it's a complicated issue that needs to be looked at. But I also think that we can come to a workable solution.

We should use the Mexican immigrant situation to the advantage of the U.S. in a practical way. If there is a drain on social services, we can find a way to tax their labor. I worry about things like people not being screened for disease and things like that. But, I agree with you that foul-mouthed, racist comments aren't necessary or helpful.

Answer 11

I do not agree with you, I know many people who would work those jobs, there are many people who would work ANY jobs, and they are legal citizens. Dirty jobs are no excuse to say we should let people illeagly here stay here just so they can do some dirty work, trust me, there are plenty of people here willing to do those jobs, just because you are too prissy to do it don't mean we are. And before you go trying to say I'm racist, guess what? I'm half mexican, and I am a legal citrizen, my family on my father's side speak spanish as a first langauge and I know all about the issues at hand, and I still opose illegal immigrants. I live in Hampton, VA, here a couple weeks ago, we had an illegal imigrant that was driving drunk, and killed 2 teenage girls, wheres the good in that? yeah, I know it could have happened with anyone, but it didn't, it happened with someone here illegaly, and had he not been here, those 2 girls would still be alive today.

I'm not trying to be rude, or mean, and I apologize if i offend you, but I completely disagree with thinking its ok for illegal imigrants to come here, and i always will be.