Let my ask this again. Who did God need to appease by committing suicide?

Question

God made the rules that His own creations (man) broke. He then sent Himself (since He and Jesus are one) on a suicide mission as a sacrifice to who? Is there a higher God than God that He had to appease?
I'm tired of the regular John 3:16 garbage that brainwashed fanatics, with tunnel vision, keep pushing. I need something that makes sense.

Jesus' objective was indeed a suicide mission. It was like suicide-by-cop.

Answer 1

Hey sarge,
Your question sounds like one that might be asked by a seven year old.
Perhaps John 3:16 is too deep for you?

Answer 2

God set up the rules that God needs to have a sacrifice whenever he is offended, otherwise, by God's rules, he must send the offender for ever into a torture chamber, no matter how infinitesimally small the offense. So God then decided to commit suicide by allowing the offenders to kill him so that he could then "miraculously" (as if he didn't know) arise from the dead, proving that he didn't really commit suicide at all, but giving himself the appeasement through his own sacrifice that he needs to stop sending people into the torture chamber.

But then he set up a different idea, that you still had to go to the torture chamber if you didn't believe that he had committed suicide to keep you from having to go into the torture chamber. Which, of course, means that the only thing that changed is that God (err... Jesus) had a really bad weekend, then declared the new rule was that rather than behavior, belief was the only thing that mattered. Or was that the Apostle Paul that said that. Either way, the torture chamber still gets most of humanity, in spite of God's suicidal sacrifice, which really makes it seem pretty meaningless, if you ask me.

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Answer 3

No one. The crucifixion was not an appeasement, but rather fulfilled the law.

"God made the rules that His own creations (man) broke."
But the rules are not arbitrary, but reflect what is. "The wages of sin is death" isn't a rule that God made up because He felt like it, but because that's the real consequence of separating ourselves from God's love. Worship isn't meant as an ego boost for God, but an acknowledgment of who He really is and what He has done for us.

God is just. Therefore, He cannot by His own nature ignore sin or let it go unpunished. But He can, and has chosen to, take that punishment on Himself.

Answer 4

Would you consider it suicide if you took the punishment of death upon yourself to save someone you love?

God didn't die. God doesn't die. The flesh He put on died.

Jesus is the Word of God. In Greek, it's logos. Which means that Jesus is the embodiment of God's wisdom, life giving qualities, etc. His name is Emmanuel which means God with us.

The whole point of a sacrifice is communication. If you can get passed John 3:16 look at 3:18. The word "condemned" in Greek means to be covered with a thick veil. When Jesus died, the Bible says that the veil in the Temple tore in half. From top to bottom. This means that through the blood sacrifice of Jesus Christ, we can communicate with God the Father at anytime. Praise Him! =)

Answer 5

This is a very difficult thing to understand. I have struggles with it myself. I don't know the answer. Somewhere, somehow, in the field of quantum physics there must be an answer. Equal and opposite reaction, or something? Old Magic? There must be some logical reason that my small mind has not yet figured out. I am sure some great theologian has pondered that, and I just have not read their work yet. Good question. People will hate you for asking it.

Answer 6

You cannot solve any problem from a wrong premise.
that is a rule in science. It also applies to questions about Almighty God.
Simply, Jesus IS NOT God. Jesus IS his son. The same rule that applies to every father and son on the earth. Admittedly, they are spiritual, but surely the God to us all who had the Bible written for our knowledge and benefit, would not un-necessarily complicate the matter.
And god does things...legally.
He has a set of rules, that He originally set, but also that HE abides by. Do not forget, He is perfect in JUSTICE.
And all the angels, who have free will, are looking on. [ Satan was an angel, with free will, who chose NOT to obey]
If God breaks his own rules, just to suit himself, all He would be is a very POWERFUL entity, but having no sense of right or wrong.
But of course, He is not like that.
Adam, who was created perfect, and withpout the prospect of ever dying, DISOBEYED, and because of that was warned about and even ' sentenced' to [eventually] die. And we have inherited that fault.
From that moment,Adam was IMPERFECT.
Everyone sine Adam is also imperfect.
So God had to solve the problem of achieving "no death" for all people.
So God sent his son to earth as a man [via Mary] to 'pay' with his perfect life, a ransom sacrifice to 'buy' back for us the right to again live without death. For this sacrifice, Jesus was rewarded back in heaven, to again be alongside his Father.
After his 'human' death, Jesus spent three days in his grave, then forty days with his disciples on the earth, before god took him back to heaven.
A main point here, is that it proves that to God, death means nothing.
It can be reversed. Example; Lazarus.
Promise; (Revelation 21:4) And he will wipe out every tear from their eyes, and death will be no more, neither will mourning nor outcry nor pain be anymore. The former things have passed away.”
(1 Corinthians 15:26) As the last enemy, death is to be brought to nothing.

Hope this helps.

Answer 7

Quiet frankly, we're tired of the stupid questions by those like you who think you have all the answers and anyone who doesn't see eye to eye are somehow less deserving or ignorant. God didn't commit suicide. If you understand it to mean that God came to earth in the form of a baby, named Jesus, and planned it so that he would intentionally die, then maybe that is where your misunderstanding is at. Jesus makes mention of His Father in heaven, which shows a connection of kin but not of the two being one. He refers to His Father more than one time but maybe you just overlooked that in your effort to try and discredit Christianity. Man may have crucified Christ, but Christ calls out to God before His death on the cross. In fact, He refers to Him as Father.

Answer 8

No one; why choose the language of appeasement? The death of Jesus can be understood as the outworking of God's decision from all eternity to be the redeemer of humanity in the person of Jesus of Nazareth. That decision to be for humanity involves the decision to be against that which threatens humanity. For the choice of Jesus Christ necessarily includes the rejection of what is not chosen and its existence as the object of that rejection. Jesus, by being for humanity, must face the onslaught of evil which threatens humanity, but overcomes sin and death through the resurrection at and through the high point of human rejection of God, namely, the cross.

Answer 9

Are you really looking for an answer? By the sound of your followers you are really just looking to make fun. But, I'll give it a shot anyway.

God wasn't appeasing anyone, He was covering a multitude of sin. Yes, His creation fell into sin, willfully committed sin. Yes, sin brings on death (eternal death, hell). If Jesus, sinless, God incarnate, didn't provide the perfect sacrifice all mankind would be doomed to hell. He made a way out for us. God set up the rules. He knew sin would separate Him from His creation. He also knew that without a great sacrifice on His part, His creation wouldn't see how much He loved them and how much He was willing to do for them. Do you love someone because they tell you to? No. Because they have done something to endear themselves to you. Would you have affectionate feelings for someone if they saw you were in danger and sacrificed themselves to get you out of harms way? Most likely. That's what God wants from us. Our love willingly given because He loved us first. I hope this helps.

Answer 10

That's easy, since God and Jesus are not one. Jesus is the son of God. God caused Jesus to be born as a human and Jesus willingly sacrificed his perfect life to balance the scales. A perfect life for a perfect life. He bought back for us what Adam lost: the opportunity to be sinless and live forever in Paradise on Earth. God follows His own perfect standards of justice.

The doctrine of the Trinity is not based on Biblical teachings, but was added later. But it sure makes a mess of things such as : Who was Jesus talking to when he prayed? Who resurrected him? Why is he called "son" when "brother" would suit better if they are equal?

Answer 11

His dying established a new covenant with mankind.
We are separated from God by sin, but now we can come to know and love the living God through Jesus Christ. There is no other way that He has made for us to be forgiven.

We do not have to know everything about something to find out that it works. Not everyone knows how computers, cell phones, etc. work, it's just that we know that they do what they were designed to do. The same with Jesus, His death, resurrection, and the new covenant. It simply does what God designed it to do... restoring our relationship with Him..