I need to know as comprehensive of a list as possible of all the "pre-approved" religious organizations that the IRS allows the members to opt out of social security using form 4029.
2007-05-01 14:17:17 · 6 answers · asked by Greg 2 in Business & Finance ➔ Taxes ➔ United States
... And don't say "none" because I have a copy of the form right here in front of me and it clearly says that any member of an "approved organization" can file.
2007-05-01 14:27:18 · update #1
The government does not maintain a list of qualified religious organizations for Form 4029. Any individual can apply using Form 4029, but as you have read the form, the individual must be a member of one of these organizations, and that particular organization had to be in existence before December 31, 1950.
The history of this exclusion arose from a dispute with the Old Order Amish. Members of this sect have successfully used Form 4029. Mennonites are another example of individuals that have used this form.
Other than those two groups, I can't find other examples.
2007-05-02 08:37:15 · answer #1 · answered by ninasgramma 7 · 0⤊ 0⤋
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Which religious sects are automatically allowed to file IRS Form 4029 to opt out of social security?
I need to know as comprehensive of a list as possible of all the "pre-approved" religious organizations that the IRS allows the members to opt out of social security using form 4029.
2015-08-11 08:19:42 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
Irs Form 4029
2016-11-12 21:42:39 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 0⤋
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2016-03-15 08:23:15 · answer #4 · answered by ? 3 · 0⤊ 0⤋
Read the instructions on page 2. And see IRS Pub 517 as well.
The SSA must approve the application before the IRS does. SSA makes the determination, not the IRS.
2007-05-01 21:16:24 · answer #5 · answered by Bostonian In MO 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
you may have to look this up on IRS web site and file FOI form to actually get what you want.
2007-05-01 15:38:39 · answer #6 · answered by Jo Blo 6 · 0⤊ 0⤋
None. a 'church preacher' may opt out and only them. not associates or any other member
2007-05-01 14:21:00 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0⤊ 4⤋