If JESUS was the son of God?

Question

How can he Be his own father!
And I've read the Bible and nowhere does it say that he said he was God. He even called out to his Father on the cross!

Answer 1

Saffy, you shouldn't involve yourself in human being things.

Answer 2

No Jesus isn't God... The New Encyclopædia Britannica says: “Neither the word Trinity, nor the explicit doctrine as such, appears in the New Testament, nor did Jesus and his followers intend to contradict the Shema in the Old Testament: ‘Hear, O Israel: The Lord our God is one Lord’ (Deut. 6:4). . . . The doctrine developed gradually over several centuries and through many controversies. . . . By the end of the 4th century . . . the doctrine of the Trinity took substantially the form it has maintained ever since.”—(1976), Micropædia, Vol. X, p. 126.

The New Catholic Encyclopedia states: “The formulation ‘one God in three Persons’ was not solidly established, certainly not fully assimilated into Christian life and its profession of faith, prior to the end of the 4th century. But it is precisely this formulation that has first claim to the title the Trinitarian dogma. Among the Apostolic Fathers, there had been nothing even remotely approaching such a mentality or perspective.”—(1967), Vol. XIV, p. 299.

Jesus when he was on earth and in Heaven referred to Jehovah as 'MY GOD' Rev3:12-13, John 20:17. Not once in the scriptures does Jehovah refer to Jesus in the same manner.

Answer 3

The Father, The Son and The Holy Spirit all make up The God Head. We need our Father, and since our Father was seperated from us through our sins, Jesus had to serve as a final sacrifice, so that we may have forgiveness and no longer be seperated from our Father.
As far as The Holy Spirit, when it was Jesus Christs' time to go, He told the desciples they would not be left without a comforter, hence, The Holy Spirit, today we are all Jesus Christs' desciples and followers and when we receive The Lord into our lives, repenting of our sins, asking for forgiveness, and having Faith, The Holy Spirit comes to live in us, until Jesus Christs return.

Answer 4

I guess you messed the book of John. Jesus declared i am the father are one. He did not say two he said one. Jesus is he who came out of the Father. Thus the only true son of GOD. Mary concieved of the Holy Spirit. Jesus father is God. Thus he is the SON of God. Jesus is the word of God become flesh. By which all things were creater. Not are created were created. Jesus is the creator in human form revealed unto man for the first time in Flesh. Jesus had to call out to the Father on the cross. It was why God sent him to be begotton of God on the cross and to be rejected of men. That he could bear the sins of a thankless people and offer them salvation thur his sons obidence. Seems like a simple story what seems to be the problem understanding that.

Answer 5

You are correct. Jesus was God's son and not God. If Jesus was God, why did he say that the father was greater than he was? They were united in their purpose, but that's all. To all of you who say they're part of a trinity, Jesus said the Pharisees were from their father the Devil. Did he actually mean they were the Devil's children? Hardly. He meant they had the same purpose.

Answer 6

Do you beleive the teachings of Jesus? Then easily he was the only begotten of the Father. Now your only problem is how this makes him God? God was before anything was created and he was Father, Son and Holy Spirit and this is one God. Confused? Sure you are, man was made in the image of God first man was made form the dust(Flesh) then God breathed a Spirit into him. Man is both flesh and spirit and the two are one living soul. The image of god shows that man is more than mere flesh as the animals are but also has an eternal spirit and the body and spirit are one living soul, tothose who do not believe that God is made up of parts I would suspose that this is over there head but wihtout a spirit man is dead with his flesh..so we are dependant on God and us being more than one part. If man is more than one part why is it so hard to imagine an infinite God being more than one part?

Answer 7

He WAS God, JUST NOT THE FATHER. John 1:1 makes this clear, but the translation is a bit tedious for those who are not familiar with it. Here is an "Exegetical Insight" from a Biblical Greek textbook talking about that passage:

The nominative case is the case that the subject is in. When the subject takes an equative verb like “is” (i.e., a verb that equates the subject with something else), then another noun also appears in the nominative case–the predicate nominative. In the sentence, “John is a man,” “John” is the subject and “man” is the predicate nominative. In English the subject and predicate nominative are distinguished by word order (the subject comes first). Not so in Greek. Since word order in Greek is quite flexible and is used for emphasis rather than for strict grammatical function, other means are used to determine subject from predicate nominative. For example, if one of the two nouns has the definite article, it is the subject.

As we have said, word order is employed especially for the sake of emphasis. Generally speaking, when a word is thrown to the front of the clause it is done so for emphasis. When a predicate nominative is thrown in front of the verb, by virtue of word order it takes on emphasis. A good illustration of this is John 1:1c. The English versions typically have, “and the Word was God.” But in Greek, the word order has been reversed. It reads,

‘kai theos en ho logos’
“and God was the Word.”

"We know that “the Word” is the subject because it has the definite article, and we translate it accordingly: “and the Word was God.” Two questions, both of theological import, should come to mind:

(1) Why was 'theos' (God) thrown forward?
and
(2) Why does it lack the article?

In brief, its emphatic position stresses its essence or quality: “What God was, the Word was” is how one translation brings out this force. Its lack of a definite article keeps us from identifying the person of the Word (Jesus Christ) with the person of “God” (the Father). That is to say, the word order tells us that Jesus Christ has all the divine attributes that the Father has; lack of the article tells us that Jesus Christ is not the Father. John’s wording here is beautifully compact! It is, in fact, one of the most elegantly terse theological statements one could ever find. As Martin Luther said, the lack of an article is against Sabellianism; the word order is against Arianism.

To state this another way, look at how the different Greek constructions would be rendered:

'kai ho logos en ho theos'=“and the Word was the God” (i.e., the Father; Sabellianism)

'kai ho logos en theos'=“and the Word was a god” (Arianism)

'kai theos en ho logos'=“and the Word was God” (Orthodoxy).

Jesus Christ is God and has all the attributes that the Father has. But he is not the first person of the Trinity. All this is concisely affirmed in 'kai theos en ho logos.'"

-Daniel B. Wallace

Wallace is quoted in "Basics of Biblical Greek Grammar,"
William D. Mounce, Copyright © 1993 by William D. Mounce.

Answer 8

You are correct.
Jesus is the Son of God, the first creation of God through with all other things were created.

There are however, 31 misapplied or mistranslated verses used to support the trinity doctrine. A doctrine that took over 300 years and a lot of bloodshed to develop. It's a doctrine fully contradictory in the Bible. That alone shows it's not divine.

There are 31 verses used to try to show Jesus as God, but there are hundreds and hundreds like the one below that show otherwise.

Joh 20:17 Jesus saith to her, Touch me not; for I am not yet ascended unto the Father: but go unto my brethren, and say to them, I ascend unto my Father and your Father, and my God and your God.

Answer 9

what you are arguing against is caled "the sybellian trinity", a view that God is one person who wears three hats: a Father hat, a Son hat and a SPirit hat

no orthodox Christians believe in "the syblellian trinity" BIble believing orthodox protestants, Catholics and Eastern Orthodox confess "the Athenasian Trinity" One God, who is one in essense and three in persons. Being three in persons, the son can pray to the Father. The Son is begotten of the Father not vice versa and it owuld not be wrong to say the Son with regard to personhood can be eternally generated and with regard to the divine nature could be the same nature as the Father

basically you are arguing against a straw man
not the real deal

Answer 10

Jesus doesn't say he was god but it says that the father the son and the holy spirit where the same person hey I'm a christian and i don't understand it but i don't understand eternity either but you got to remember god lives in a perfect sinless paradise outside of the boundaries of time and he as unlimited holy power not much is going to make sense but you have to have faith because if you don't have faith what do you have

Answer 11

think about the trinity it is God, The Son and Holy spirit. do u really think any human being would have been able to go through what Jesus went through for us. no i don't think so it also says in the bible where Jesus said if you have seen me, you have seen the Father