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I had asked a question earlier about Christian sects that interfere into married couple's sex lives. I got a LONG thesis on the RC churches' position on sex for pleasure and not reproduction.

Where in the gospels did Jesus say that married couples are not to use birth control and having babies was THE most important part of marriage?

Or did this RC teaching come from another source?

2007-05-01 08:20:41 · 28 answers · asked by jessicabjoseph 3 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

And when I say 'birth control" I mean all methods short of abortion.

2007-05-01 08:21:12 · update #1

I did say I was not referring to abortion, didn't I?

WHY ARE SOME STILL MENTIONING IT?

I am talking about contraception that prevents the sperm from meeting the egg.

I also asked about what Jesus had to say about it. As a Christian it is HIS decrees that matter. I don't care about what Onan did with his sister-in-law in Gensis. We are under a New Covenant.

2007-05-01 08:46:54 · update #2

28 answers

He didn't mention it at all, but I can tell you where it comes from.

Those ideas stem from the idea that a man's semen should not be wasted, which comes from the story of Onan in the bible. (Genesis 38 8:10) Basically, people figured that since the bible said that god got mad after (but not necessarily because) Onan's semen did not reach its desired target, that it was a sin. That's why masturbation... still sometimes referred to as onanism... is considered a sin. That's also the reason why birth control is considered a sin. Basically unless the sperm end up inside the vagina, it's labelled a sin (even oral sex in the context of marriage).

The RCC does have a lot to say about birth control being sinful, but 99% of it comes from encyclicals and other church documents, the contents of which are determined via "Sacred Tradition" and prayer. In those documents, the RCC essentially states that sexuality, being a gift from god, is supposed to be a holy link between a husband, a wife, and god; this link is supposed to be fruitful just as the original creation (ie Adam and Eve) was fruitful. This "life-giving love" is one of the essential requirements for RCC sex. (The other two are consent and marriage).

A problem, as it were, arises when one reads the RCC definition of the aforementioned "life-giving love"; such life does not require conception, or necessarily even the possibility of conception. The RCC permits married people who know that they are sterile/infertile to engage in sexual activity, even though no child may be produced. One issue this raises is "Why does the RCC deem contraception immoral?" (short answer: it is unnatural [I know, not a sensible answer]), and furthermore why does the RCC let sterile heterosexuals marry but forbid homosexuals who could adopt to marry. The objection to homosexuality lies in the inherent inability to conceive and give birth. Those double standards have yet to be answered by the RCC.

I hope that this helped answer your question.

2007-05-01 08:42:23 · answer #1 · answered by Rat 7 · 1 0

There is little in the bible regarding birth control or abortion. The closest thing to a birth control reference is the sin of Onan. Religious law required Onan to attempt to impregnate his brother's widow because she was childless. He pulled out and, famously, spilled his seed which was seen as a sin. However, there is no reference in the bible saying that intercourse, in general, is for reproduction and avoiding reproduction is a sin. Note that birth control did exist in the ancient Mid-East so it could have been mentioned if anyone felt it was sinful.

Schneb is wrong about abortion. The bible does have a penalty for causing an abortion but the penalty is a fine paid to the father. Essentially the fetus is treated like a piece of property that was damaged, not like a soul that was murdered. This is in line with the belief at the time of the OT that the soul entered the body with the first breath.

2007-05-01 08:26:32 · answer #2 · answered by Dave P 7 · 2 0

Does your community expect a woman to give birth to as many children as possible? Rightfully, how many children a married couple have is their personal decision. What if parents lack the means to feed, clothe, and educate numerous children? Surely, the couple should consider this when deciding on the size of their family. Some couples who cannot support all their children entrust relatives with the responsibility to raise some of them. Is this practice desirable? Not really. And it does not relieve the parents of their obligation toward their children. The Bible says: “If anyone does not provide for those who are his own, and especially for those who are members of his household, he has disowned the faith.” (1 Timothy 5:8) Responsible couples try to plan the size of their “household” so that they can ‘provide for those who are their own.’ Can they practice birth control in order to do this? That too is a personal decision, and if married couples do decide on this course, the choice of contraceptive is also a personal matter. “Each one will carry his own load.” (Galatians 6:5) However, birth control that involves any form of abortion goes contrary to Bible principles. Jehovah God is “the source of life.” (Psalm 36:9) Therefore, to snuff out a life after it has been conceived would show gross disrespect for Jehovah and is tantamount to murder.—Exodus 21:22, 23; Psalm 139:16; Jeremiah 1:5.

2007-05-01 08:26:55 · answer #3 · answered by Wisdom 6 · 2 0

As for you, be fruitful and increase in number; multiply on the earth and increase upon it." Genesis 9:6-8 How can we be fruitful if we are using contraceptives?

God slew Onan for practicing contraception (Gen. 38:9-10); the word ``onanism'' derives from Onan's deed. In fact, up until the Church of England's Lambeth Conference of 1930, which accepted contraception and thus broke with the Christian tradition, contraception had been considered by all Christian churches, both Catholic and Protestant, to be gravely sinful. The Catholic Church does not feel free to change the law of God, as do Protestants.

God bless,
Stanbo

2007-05-01 08:32:16 · answer #4 · answered by Stanbo 5 · 2 1

He didn't. Ever. And in 1 Corinthians 7, Paul indicates that married couples need to keep one another fulfilled sexually. Sex was created by God to be a beautiful, bonding, pleasurable part of marriage. Obviously, only birth control methods that don't destroy life are acceptable to God, but as a Pastor, I can tell you my wife uses birth control. And I'm not a casual Christian. I'm a true Bible believer.

2007-05-01 08:27:10 · answer #5 · answered by JamesWilliamson 3 · 1 0

Again the times have changed since the Bible. The Christianity was meant to spread, so every 'semen' wasn't allowed to go to 'waste'. But the death rate of the children was very high, too, in those times and many children usually meant many workers on farmland, herding etc. Today it is different, children survive and we now know how bad the effects of overpopulation has upon a land. To have too many children is also bad for a woman's health.
Today a sensible and loving god would approve birth control, that's for sure.

2007-05-01 08:28:58 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Well..........No where. people have there own perceptions about what the bible is saying. But the bible does say be fruitful and multiply, that means reproduction. so if your on birth control you can't, but the the bible also says use wisdom, now my mother is a christian she has 6 kids and she is on birth control, she can't afford time or money to have another baby right now so.....she got on birth control, and I'm sure she won't go to hell. But I'm thinking this if you are under the will of God and having sex through marriage than he will only allow you to conceive a child when it is time for you, so. You just have to study to show yourself approved, and pray. have your own relationship with him he'll let you know.

2007-05-01 08:30:37 · answer #7 · answered by MaryJane 1 · 0 1

in accordance to the Trinity doctrine, Jesus is God, yet a separate individual from the daddy. The doctrine teaches that there are 3 separate persons -- the daddy, The Son and The Holy Spirit -- who all contain one God. If this coaching is actual, there should not be any scripture contained in the Bible that portrays Jesus as an entity separate and diverse from God -- separate and diverse from the daddy, sure; yet no longer separate and diverse from God. via way of assessment, notice that there is not any scripture contained in the Bible that portrays the daddy as a separate and diverse entity from God. it would be completely ridiculous, perplexing, pointless and contradictory for the Bible to lower back and lower back consult from Jesus as an entity separate and diverse from God, if Jesus is God. however the scriptures you quoted do purely that. persistently they talk of Jesus being on the ultimate suited hand of, no longer the daddy, yet God, subsequently contradicting the Trinity doctrine. simply by fact the Bible is God's notice of actuality, the certainty that it so oftentimes contradicts the Trinity doctrine can advise purely one difficulty -- the Trinity doctrine is fake. (John 17:17) i've got faith -- simply by fact i've got faith maximum folk have a minimum of a modicum of intelligence -- that deep down, many Trinitarians comprehend that the doctrine is fake. yet satisfaction and/or a desire to slot in with the 'Christian' crowd compels them to play alongside, pretending or convincing themselves that they suspect it. Many are subsequently in a state of denial approximately this falsehood. purely look at how they answer the question. Many won't even handle the particular difficulty you have raised, head on -- simply by fact they might't. Their purely determination is to forget approximately it and quote different so called 'info texts'. this is not any longer simply by fact they lack intelligence. this is simply by fact there is not any credible and passable argument to disprove what the Bible -- God's authoritative notice of actuality -- very blatantly shows.

2016-10-04 05:17:18 · answer #8 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

Jesus never said, "Don't use birth control".

The RCC made this stuff up. Its man made religion which no longer has very much do to with the Bible.

God did intend sex for pleasure and has a certain side effect as well: Babies

But pleasure only for married couples, not for everyone.

If you are not married, go to Disney and get your pleasure there.

Pastor Art

2007-05-01 11:44:21 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

I don't think that's in the Bible at all. I've never seen it in there.

Sex is meant for procreation, yes. But, it is also meant to keep married partners happy with each other.

I think the idea of no birth control is a man made idea. Some church official made it up.

Incidentally, I have not heard anyone in my church ever say that birth control was sinful. (Baptist)

2007-05-01 08:27:41 · answer #10 · answered by kiwi 7 · 1 0

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