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i want one that will be most effective in a real life fight, such as a bar or similar, ive herd descriptions of krav maga and i liek the way it sound, but there arent any in my area(alabama). can someone reccomend an art, i like to end the situation quick, i also want a combination of punches knees and takedowns..taekwondos out of the question so please dont waste ur time recommending it

2007-05-01 00:03:25 · 15 answers · asked by Anonymous in Sports Martial Arts

hand of dog, who says i dont wanna hurt the person? im not a bully or fight starter but if someone steps to me i definately want to hurt them lol

2007-05-01 00:42:44 · update #1

opiniatedkittens are u illetare or something? can nu not read the detail that says im Not a bully or fight starter? is ur mom and dad brother and sister?

2007-05-01 00:50:24 · update #2

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If I was a bully on the street, even a very tough bully, I would dread coming up against a trained Muay Thai fighter.

Most street fighting bullies are not even thinking about protecting themselves from leg attacks. The first kick they take to the leg usually causes them to lower their guard, making them susceptible to elbow strikes to the head, and knees delivered to the head and ribs. The hand techniques of Muay Thai are, for the most part, nothing flashy and are just as effective as those thrown by a skilled boxer, especially against someone who has minimal fight training, such as you may encounter on the street.

Muay Thai does include leg traps and sweeps, but not take downs per-se. Again, if you deliver a powerful Muay Thai roundhouse to the leg of a street fighter who has minimal fight training, it usually sends an undeniable message to the recipient and you won't have to worry about having to take them down.

2007-05-01 03:21:29 · answer #1 · answered by JV 5 · 0 0

Hi there It does seem aikido is getting some hammer recently? Firstly before people start sticking their two cents worth in lets look at where it comes from first? Its based on core concepts of koryu jujutsu as is judo bjj and lots of other gendai arts. So fundamentally its techniques are solid! Which brings me to gendai arts or modern do arts. These are japanese arts that for historical reasons are more focused on the DO or personal development on the individual hence why they are trained the way they are. They may not well be trained in what is considered to be a realistic manner because they are about development and not the spirit of fighting. If they were bujutsu arts then that would be a different matter. Like i said the principles are solid but like anything its down to how you use them. There is a sport version of Aikido called tomiki where they compete just like competitors of judo. I have had my shoulder ripped out by the world champion of tomiki whilst doing randori which took a good six months to sort out and my should will never be what it once was. Compare this damage to that of a broken nose or bust lip? Its long term! Everything has its place. Aikdio isnt ever going to be useful in a ufc type environment just as restraining or avoiding a knife attack wont go down too well against a bjj practitioner. The art is fit for purpose hence why its used by lots of law enforcement officers around the world. Does it work for real? Depends on the situation and the individual. If youve resorted to using it then youve missed so much that has happened before it and you could question why as a martial artist that was the case? Maybe the bag at the gym wasnt quite up to explaining that one? The most stupid question ever asked by a novice turning up to class. Do you do any boxing in this art? No its an Aikido class??? Bottom line dont try to turn or use something it wasnt designed for. If you want UFC go train in that. If you want Aikido go do that. Its a personal choice and the choices of the arts you think are important or want to train in will change over the years. Whats so important to a novice isnt a big deal to someone who has trained for decades. The eyes will only see what the mind allows and a novices eyes see differently from the experienced! Best wishes idai

2016-03-18 21:53:40 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

if you are talking about the "most effective" it will undoubtedly involve a weapons system if fedor was attacking you, and you had justification, he stands no chance against your handgun no matter how skilled he is in hand to hand. with a knife, you become a deadly threat to him. Maybe because of his size, his sensative or target areas will be more protected by muslce, but still a knife can do serious damage to a person and shifts the advantage of a fight.

However, in a "bar" situation or non- self defence situation (hand to hand is usually not considered life and death or even a necessary encounter, so it is not "self-defence" 9/10), then truthfully any art that trains hard is good.

The thing you should be looking for is a good teacher, and a good school. generally i think it is better to start with a sportative style like boxing, muai thai, san da, judo, bjj, sambo, etc. That way you know how to identify a school that trains realistically and with resistance in other martial arts.

Unless you know what to look for avoid "problem areas" of martial arts, these are generally:
1-Aikido-
Generally lots of aikido dojos don't train with resisting opponents. the complaint or catchphrase is that the "ukes throw themselves". you need resistance to train.

2- kung fu or chinese martial arts
generally same complaint as #1, most CMA schools don't train with resistance but throw into the mix that many teachers promote ridiculous ideas and concepts like "its too deadly to practice with resistance" or "useing chi energy like the force" or "death touches".

3- TKD- famous for point sparring, this is a "resistance" thing gone bad, while tkd might train with resistance, they exemplify "resistance added in an unrealistic situation".
Basically tkd trains for competitions with rules so unrealistic that it actually makes you a worse fighter. Point sparring is basically "tag" with martial arts moves, first to "score" wins. "scoring" also does not mean a punch to the head, as would be a realistic situation. there is no counter punching, meaning any shot, not the quality of the shot or any power is thier goal- this takes away the basic factors of a real fight.

I'm not saying every aikido, cma and tkd gym suck, I'm saying that you should take a sportative system first so you can judge for yourself better if it is a good or bad traditional (non-sportative) martial art.

2007-05-01 04:19:54 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Take any. With any luck, the discipline will take away that insecure, childish urge to get into bar fights.

Well, you certainly sound pleasant.

Most bar fights are the result of two people mouthing off and refusing to back down. The smart thing to do is to back down and let the other guy he's all big and strong for having made you back down. The best way to handle that kind of situation is to walk away and let the other guy think he got the upper hand - whatever.
I haven't needed to fight anyone in 15 years.

2007-05-01 00:45:42 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

I prefer budo taijutsu. Krav Maga is mixture of boxing and a few other martial arts. I liked the comment about the 100 yard dash. Judo would be good. Good Luck.

2007-05-01 03:34:06 · answer #5 · answered by Mike M 2 · 0 0

I would recomend doing either karate(kyokushin!)/muay thai/kickboxing, mixed with a grapling art such as BJJ/Judo or just go for MMA school if you want it compact and dont have much time to train two forms. Also understand the shredder concept, its from senshido, you really dont have to do any classes, just buy the DVD, they go over it really really well, and there is no real way to practice

WOuld recomend avoiding "real fight" schools, i never been to one but i imagine they dont do alot of sparing or conditioning and youd want to get fit while you learning self defence, and there arnt that many great ways to practice, say, an eye gouge, and all of this is taught in karate

by the way, if you herd some bad stuff about karate it does not apply to kyokushin, it is one of the touthest arts out there, they dont punch to the head ( good if you want to avoid having your brain bashed around, and the only realy down side to this is you dont get used to getting punched in the head but you could practice sparing with head punches outside of training) but the sparing is bare nuckle, full contact with kicks to the head allowed, and the training is tough, + karate will have knife defence and street techniques like eye gouges and how to break the collar bone, things that Kick Boxing and Muay Thai might not have (you can guess what style i do :) )

Do grapling too! either BJJ or Judo are good, avoid Aikido, you basically get thrown equally hard as in judo or BJJ but the techniques are inefective and are only in "ideal situations" or to show off, i dont think they will work well in a real fight, or you would have to train for a really long time to be effective, also avoid shotokan karatem its a fantastic art, its great that it allows anyone to practice it, and they have great kata, but... when it comes to fighting i believ they fall short, you will need to train a very long time in shotokan, their techniques are very complex and to be confident with them will take a while, yes avoid TKD, and man, choosing the right style is very important, try some of them out and see if you like them first, dont just go to the beginer classes watch some advanced guys sparing and see if you want to fight like them in the future.

I really dont know about Krav Maga and those reality fighting schools, i mean things like the shredder are very cool, but how can you practice it??? i would do a core martial art where i can really work up a sweat and get good fitness and lay into someone in sparing and learn those "kill moves" from a DVD or something and practice with a friend, but i have no idea what those schools are like so maby its a good idea to ask a question about it

You need to learn how to hold your own not just run away, what if you aproach a girl and it turns out her boyfriend is drunk and jelous? you need to learn how to fight so you can go for what you want in life knowing that if the **** hits the fan you can cover yourself, and there are many asshols out there who will be quick to jump into a fight just because you wore something funny, or because you are making a pass at someone, does that mean you stop hitting on girls? Hell NO!

2007-05-01 02:21:03 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

If That's What you are looking for, then i would recommend Muay Thai, Kick Boxing, or just regular boxing, and if you are looking for takedowns then i would recommend Kung Fu or any other martial art, its really about what you want to do actually.

2007-05-01 02:35:13 · answer #7 · answered by jamesfreerocker 2 · 0 0

I have found that Aikido is a very good defensive art to learn. You could try Hap Ki Do as well, they focus a lot more on joint locks and submission style/bone breaking moves.

Krav Magna is good as well, if you can get somebody to teach it to you.

Have you thought of a mixed form of kickboxing? They use the knees and forearms extensively and the takedowns are quite nice as well.

2007-05-01 00:13:22 · answer #8 · answered by sixtymm 3 · 0 1

Brazilian Jiu Jitsu. Many many street fights end up on the ground, so BJJ would be perfect. And it will definately build your endurance.

2007-05-01 02:50:11 · answer #9 · answered by dixiegirl687 5 · 0 0

Thai Kick-Boxing...its definetely the best...its helped me a couple of times and its popular...but if don't wanna harm the person, and like you said, end it quick Judo would be a good option...but like i said...go for Kick-Boxing...its been considered the 2nd most dangerous weapon after your mind..

2007-05-01 00:29:14 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

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