Religion?... tell me what you think..?

Question

If i were to suggest that between the Earth and Mars there is a china teapot revolving about the sun in an elliptical orbit, nobody would be able to disprove my assertion provided I were careful to add that the teapot is too small to be revealed even by our most powerful telescopes.

But if I were to go on to say that, since my assertion cannot be disproved, it is intolerable presumption on the part of human reason to doubt it, I should rightly be thought to be talking nonsense.
If, however, the existence of such a teapot were affirmed in ancient books, taught as a sacred truth every Sunday, and instilled into the minds of children at school and by parents, hesitation to believe in its existence would become eccentricity.



hmmmmmmm =) ...

Say something intelligent if you are going to reply and not just "may god save you" or something like that.


I was a christian for 20 years and now an atheist.

from


The God Delusion
by. Richard Dawkins

Answer 1

I, too, was a Christian for a lot of years. But I had a hard time even then believing what I was taught. Eventually I convinced myself that it was all so much bull. To fortify my new belief structure I read the gnostic gospels and literature supporting an atheist stance.

But without a god to believe in, there was a huge aching space inside me that felt so awfully empty. Really, there was no further point in living. And I had to admit that some things just defy all scientific explanation. Further, I had to admit that I appreciate that mystical part of me (which my religious teachings in all probability awakened) and I enjoy the not knowing, the mystery.

I also had to concede that there is (or are) energy force(s) beyond human comprehension or human definition. In this respect, I guess I've somewhat reverted. Now I'm more what you could call agnostic. I simply don't know. And I like that I don't know. I SHOULDN'T know.

You could say I've come to believe in a Higher Teapot. A Teapot greater than myself. I'm glad to finally know what to call it. Thanks.

Answer 2

Then I would say to you. Darwinism is merely a philosophical concept which is no different than faith in a higher being except for one specific point. Darwinism has faith that a missing link will be found. Christianity's link has already been found in Jesus of Nazareth.

Faith in a China teapot revolving around the Sun is a baseless assertion while Theists are more founded in a concrete assertion that we have been told about God throughout history.

If you can link me to a Book written ages ago that speaks about future events before they happen historically, and this book is from where you have based your teapot assertion, then I would consider it relevant to the debate. If not than, it is irrelevant to the thesis of this debate and founded in unfounded argument.

I so make Richard Dawkins appear as he is. An argumentative fool who has no concept of rational intellectual theory. because his whole argument is a faith in no faith. He has faith that science will one day prove his theories and anti-theist positions.

;)

Answer 3

The greater part of religion was mind control for the masses.

It's easy to see why some people were convinced by religion when we didn't know what the clouds, stars and sun were.
But in the scientific age of today, Darwin's theory of evolution has all but disproved religion.
Though I must add that the few people that religion keeps in line has probably helped crime statistics, but not the overall death toll of the world in recent years.

It really is a shame that people can't step back, made their own minds up and then choose the life they want to lead - maybe its just easier for some people to be told whats right and whats wrong.

Answer 4

You are absolutetly right. Religion makes me nauseous for this very reason. I believe in God because I feel something every now and then. I just know.

If you study some current scientific research in quantum physics, you will find a boat load of scientists putting together some very interesting theories. Energy, strings, the mysterious connection between distant electrons, the Big Bang. Every mathematical equation completely breaks down at the piont of and before The Big Bang. Check it out.

Answer 5

:)

Finally, a logical question.

It sounds like the "Flying Spaghetti Monster" theory.
Take a look, I think you'll smile:
http://www.venganza.org/

Although I really like the tiny floating teapot theory better.

I guess what I'm trying to say here that all religions are faith based and if any theist comes up to you saying there is evidence, they're lying. I was brought up in a Christian household, but I never succumbed to their follies. From observation, they believe in what they do because they're desperate to have hope in their life. It's taking the "blue pill" in the Matrix, and masking reality with illusion.

Answer 6

were you a Christian in name or practice. Many people call themselves Christian because they believe in God and believe in Jesus and they live a good life but do not really study in depth and have understanding and revelation of the scriptures. I am not judging you either way- just asking out of curiosity.
I also know of those who called themselves Christian until tragedy struck, or they prayed for a specific thing and did not get it, or life was not the peaches and cream they thought they were buying into when accepting Christianity (most of these were not 20 year veterans though)
Your question, by the way could go both ways - science claims a lot of things- some things from the past have been proven to be hoaxes, some have been proven to be mistakes. I have no way of proving or obtaining proof of most of what is claimed- I can only take their word for it- I can choose to believe ot because they said so or not.
I have my reasons for believing what I do.

In my observation, most Christians have very little knowledge and undertanding about the foundations and roots of their faith- they go by what a preacher tells them and look at hte Bible through te ees of our modern culture and through the scope of our own understanding- in this way the Bible wuickly begins to make less and less sense and lifes struggles become more and more overwhelming. I believe that truly laying aside the traditions of men, putting down the burdens of the laws of religion and the church and really getting down to what the Bible is saying without the yeast of the pharisees makes things a lot clearer. A lot of what is taught in todays churches can be very confusing - so I can understand where you stand right now. I hope you don't think I am trying to be cocky or condescending- I am just trying to share where I stand regarding your question.
I do hope that you will think about the reasons you turned from your belief in God and consider that maybe you were taught and had some misunderstandings about who He is- I pray that He reveals Himself to you and you come to a knowledge and understanding of who He truly is.

Answer 7

You may have followed bible-based christianity for twenty years, but you were never a christian. There were only twelve of those and they were handpicked by Jesus. All believers since then are followers of the Spirit of truth within, not the bible or christianity. During your life you still do not understand what Jesus meant when He said that the kingdom of heaven is within you. You have plenty of company, few people do.

Answer 8

What dose it really matter. Be a good person try and be in harmony with nature and yourself and you will be in the right place. If you pray, like meditation I support it but keep your history to yourselves. Why people care or kill each other over it is so sad. Just follow the simple lessons and stop reading between the lines. Your life will be great if you surround your self with great people. When you have the wealth share it, when you have the strength lend a hand. When you are spiritually fit or just emotionally stable console your fellows that are in need

Answer 9

ok, look, this teapot you speak of... I dig it. Yes, indeed, I have seen this teapot.. it is too small for "human" eyes... but our "telescopes"... mmmmmmm, what a turn on.... yes, it is our telescopes that indeed, identify these teapots.... maybe I am way off.. but.... hell what the fu** are we talking about.. oh yes, religion....

Now, your theory may not be proved to the exact in ancient books, but hey look at present day... Your theory is right on... Tea pot or not.. Straight up...

:)

Answer 10

religion demands faith in whatever. science requires proof to prove a theory.
as religion goes, it has nothing to offer anyone since those who have the ability to think accept something without proof of anything and you are told that such and such is true. the claims are without any means of testing which forces people to believe what they are told to believe and it should be accepted as true due to having faith in it.
i don't deny that religion plays a major role in society, but i do take exception to those who say believe when all they are really saying is do as i say because i tell you to.
such hypocrisy has no place anywhere and since religion is hypocrisy it should not be what people should believe. as opinions about various religions are used to justify action, then don't act on false ideas.
religion is only for controlling people, not teaching them something of value. when religion is finally removed from the equation, reality will finally set in and people will ask themselves why they allowed a few self-centered, self-righteous hypocrits to tell them what to do.
i am not anti-religion, but i am a realist. and when realists finally wake the rest of the world up to how stupid they have been, the people will dump all religions for the sake of their own sanity.