No way the US can win this one?

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Of course that's not true. I needed to bring this to your attention.

This question
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Aq5IOnxObEFn8n5VtryA0T_sy6IX?qid=20070430120227AAyY8U6&show=7#profile-info-6931a8d973e2a0c7f37954ef3a68a4c7aa

Is part of a propaganda war they are waging. It's been on CNN and several other media sources. Yes, the media is off most of the time, but they are dead on on this one.

The question in the link is clearely poor English.

"the military man said."

Who speaks like that?

http://memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=archives&Area=sd&ID=SP150807

That article will give you more info.

Excerpt:

"Invent Stories About American Soldiers You Have [Allegedly] Personally Known"

"Obviously, you should post your contribution... as an American... You should correspond with visitors to this forum, [bringing to their attention] the frustrating situation of their troops in Iraq... You should invent stories about American soldiers you have [allegedly] personally known

Another one
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20070430123340AAlxBCM&r=w&pa=FZptHWf.BGRX3OFMhjNcVvHmjkquUSxSMv64smjvehPEHpkABQ--&paid=answered#P5lKMjLBIkvMROXT4ov0

Another
http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index;_ylt=Ah8QESswDNjguqKiG8auhS3X7BR.?qid=20070430123519AALZO6j

Answer 1

Erudite, enlightenment, windwalker1322, slipknotraver ... completely fit that bill. Those like Coulterbasher01 and the other hardcore right-wing mockeries also undermine the cause for war by discrediting it.

Yahoo! Answers is filled with those types on the extreme right and left. Impersonation is the norm. People claim military experience (especially recent military experience) but can't offer even the simplest anecdote a real veteran can nod his head to.

This disinformation campaign only work if you have weak-minded people falling for it and moving in lockstep with the piper. Unfortunately, we have an American public that is increasingly poorly educated, and unable to differentiate between fact and fantasy.

We have a thousands of troops on the ground overseas who are screwed because those on the left and right in America are too myopic to see what it takes to make national interest come first, so they feed into these lies. While they're busy calling each other "Liberals" and "Neocons", the enemy moves ahead because he knows that if the American public thinks we are beaten overseas, then we WILL defeat ourselves, regardless of the truth on the ground.

Mind you, the government, intelligence services, and the military (especially the Army) have gross structural problems that need fixing right now, but these problems are exacerbated by complete idiots in the public spreading lies and influencing politicians to pander to them.

If this sort of disinfomation campaign occured in the 1940s, loyal Americans would have called it out and it would have ended right away. It is a measure of how far this nation has sunk that so many Americans are more willing to hate America and those who fight for it, than the enemy who strives to destroy them.

Answer 2

Here is a dirty little secret. The north didn't defeat the south in the U.S. civil war, not under the definition of an Iraqi win. Black churches were still being bombed in the 1960s (in fact some were bombed this decade), blacks were lynched for dating white women and just look at the racism that recently happened in New Orleans.

The Klu Klux Klan is the U.S. version of Al-Qaeda. Just change the names in their literature and you will see how true it is. Nobody has won their hearts and minds.

The U.S. can continue to train and equipt the Iraqi forces, but Al Qaeda is still going to be there and the bombings and killings would probably go on for years. For England it was hundreds of years before they go their act together.

Answer 3

Sounds a little paranoid to me, but the war will be lost here at home, not on the battlefield, so it's understandable paranoia.

There were similar things being said durring Vietnam - that the protestors weren't real students, but 'outside adgitators' and 'communist sympathisers.' That war was lost in the same way as this one is being lost.

Answer 4

its not about winning nor losing cuz believe or not we lost soldiers and thats nothing to be proud of i understand we trying to help the oraqi people cuz if we leave the whole country will fall apart and we will really will look like the enemy and we will ask each other we did that for nothing as long as iraq has a secure sucuritty to handle the insurgents then we could come back but no one really wins we lost nearly 3,000 us troops am proud of the us troops but they should stop it before it goes any further.

Answer 5

I didn't go to your links but I understand what you are saying, I think.

I have lots of family in the military and truthfully, they told me they aren't allowed to discuss military policy. And they never give specifics anyway.

And they don't want to worry us, so they don't go into detail about stuff, just ask how folks are doing and such.

Yes, people must be inventing things because when I tell people about my family people always asking me questions to VERIFY.

My only opinion of this war is that I want my family and their colleagues to come home as soon as possible.

I understand that they can't just COME, but I want it badly.

I worry about death all the time or maiming or something.

But I didn't realize that so many folks were making stuff up.

Have a good day.

Answer 6

Only a brainwashed or brain dead idiot would support Bush or his war. Including returning veterans.
Some see the desperation that has been caused by our occupation of their country and want to "do the right thing" by fixing what we destroyed, but the reality is, we can't.
This war is not ours to win and if we were to win it who would loose?
Insurgents. This is a Bush word for a patriotic Iraqi who does not want a foreign military presence.
Commander in Chief. Another Bushian adoption. I think he is compensating for a small willie by using a big title.
Axis of evil.....come on...even you can't believe that crap.
The truth is that we are the cause of a civil war and there is little we can do to stop it, only time and a huge death toll will.
The people and resourced we expend in Iraq should be equaled by other countries.....Oh yea, I forgot none of the other countries believed the war was justified.

Answer 7

Having a Grandson who's a United States Marine and knows this stuff from the inside, I can say that the majority do not feel that way, and you're most likely right about it being made up.

Answer 8

they might desire to tutor their US voters earlier they might compete, the two a ssn#, start cert, or passport. none of those persist with, and if the guy by some potential nevertheless wins without it, it is going numbah 2 that does..

Answer 9

Lots of anti-American propaganda out there and some people swallow the whole thing.
Some on YA are enemy agents or sympathizers.

Answer 10

I would tend to agree with you on this.

I am a Soldier, and I am a moderate-liberal democrat and no fan of this war, but I think this is a very underhanded tactic.

The sad thing is that if you just stick to the facts as they are known, the folks who are not big fans of what we're doing over there have plenty of ammunition. No need to lie about it.