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Im having a arguement and im pretty shere im right is the split of catholic and methodist " irish catholic" in ireland the casue of the civil war they had over there?

2007-04-30 06:23:43 · 15 answers · asked by Ben S 2 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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I don't think your going to win due to syntax. Sorry.

Irish Catholics are Roman Catholics who are Irish. The civil war you speak of is indeed as a result of conflict of religion. Catholicism versus Protestantism specifically "Angelican" due to that being the overriding Protestant faith of England.

Ireland and its inhabitants were hated and vilified by the English as barbaric, so Oliver Cromwell wished to institute the Angelican church and remove all things Catholic from Ireland. The result was only two counties in Ireland (way in Northern section) were Prot. The rest still Catholic. It got so bad that if you were Protestant you could take property away from a Catholic and this was allowed unil 1913!!

So it was indeed religious in the beginning and still was--however it was also about property due to the explanation I just shared.

The English were really crappy to the Irish, no doubt about it. If I were English I'd be ashamed.

2007-05-04 03:23:36 · answer #1 · answered by Michelle_My_Belle 4 · 1 0

Irish Catholic are Irish People who have a Roman Catholic background.

"Irish" Methodist are Irish People who have a methodist background. The Irish Methodist church has close ties to the English Methodist Church.

The civil war had more to do with independence from Britain than it did with religion although religion was brought into it, probably by the Irish Catholic as it was thought by the Irish Catholic that Protestants were more in favor or British rule.

2007-04-30 06:31:43 · answer #2 · answered by ♥♥The Queen Has Spoken♥♥ 7 · 1 0

Our Episcopalian friends are making great efforts, nowadays, to call themselves Catholic, but they shall never come to it.

They admit that the name Catholic is a glorious one and they would like to possess it.
The Apostles said, "I believe in the Holy Ghost, the Holy Catholic Church."
They never said, in the Anglican Church. The Anglicans deny their religion, for they say they believe in the Holy Ghost, the Holy Catholic Church.
Ask them, are they Catholics, and they say, "Yes, but not Roman Catholics.
We are English Catholics."

What is the meaning of the word Catholic? It comes from the Greek word Catholicus, universal, spread all over the earth, and everywhere the same.

Now, first of all, the Anglican Church is not spread all over the earth. It only exists in a few countries, and chiefly only where the English language is spoken.
Secondly, they are not the same all over the earth, for there are now four different Anglican churches: The Low Church, the High Church, the Ritualist Church and the Puseyite Church.

Catholicus means more than this, not only spread all over the earth and everywhere the same, but it means, moreover, at all times the same, from Christ up to the present day.

Now, then, they have not been in existence from the time of Christ. There never was an Episcopalian Church or an Anglican Church before Henry VIII.
The Catholic Church had already existed fifteen hundred years before the Episcopal came into the world.

After Episcopalianism, different other churches sprang up. Next came the Methodist, about one hundred and fifty years ago. It was started by John Wesley, who was at first a member of the Episcopalian Church. Subsequently, he joined the Moravian Brethren, but not liking them, he made a religion of his own, the Methodist Church.

After John Wesley several others sprang up, and finally, came the Campbellites, about sixty years ago. This Church was established by Alexander Campbell, a Scotchman.

2007-05-03 09:27:24 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

No the Irish Civil War had nothing to do with religion. The real reason for the civil war was because of people's different views on the Anglo-Irish Treaty. The majority of the public were in favour of the Treaty but some militant republicans refused to accept it at all. The main points they weren't happy with were: the fact that the King was still head of state, Ireland was still in the Commonwealth, there was a King's representative in Ireland and England still had possession of three naval bases.
The civil war started because of a split in the IRA and Sinn Féin.

2007-04-30 07:20:16 · answer #4 · answered by MR 3 · 0 0

Irish Catholic is NOT the same as Methodist. There is/was a war in Ireland about religion but it had to do with Catholics and Protestants (I'm not sure it was just Methodists, but probably more like Anglicans or what we in America call Episcapalians). I learned not too long ago here that Irish Catholic is a term used to distinguish between those who thought confession needed to be in public and those who thought it could be just between the priest and the person.
I'm not Catholic or Protestant, but I am Christian.

2007-04-30 06:51:43 · answer #5 · answered by Tonya in TX - Duck 6 · 0 1

Ben, what are you talking about? NO, Catholicism and the Methodist Protestant denomination are not the same.

The civil war in Ireland has very little to do with religion. It is a war about a free Ireland. Free from English control. I just happens that the more Protestant areas of Ireland were against the break away from England.

2007-04-30 06:34:34 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Irish Catholic is not really distinguishable from Catholicism in general, but neither has much of anything to do with Methodism. The religious squabbles that have plagued Northern Ireland have more been between the Catholics and the Anglicans, who are Church of England, not Methodist.

2007-04-30 06:30:58 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 2 1

WEll Im Irish so I know. The cause of the war was British takeover of the land. They gave it to all the protestants after they stole it from the catholics by force. But in truth the catholics and protestants never got along because the cathoilcs had no jobs, were looked down upon and generally treated like dirt. A little bit like how the coloured are treated in America I think

2007-04-30 06:29:57 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 4 0

No. Irish Catholics belong to the general Roman Catholic Church. Methodists are one of the many Protestant, or split-off branches from the Roman Catholic Church, like Lutheranism, Calvinism, Ana-baptists, Presbyterians, etc.

2007-04-30 06:27:34 · answer #9 · answered by . 7 · 5 0

Can't beat Roddy's answer, I would only add that Everton were originally known as St Domingo's. St Domingo Road in Everton is in the heart of the orange area of Liverpool. My dad was a catholic Liverpool fan, my mum was a catholic Everton fan, there has never been any of the sectarian divide like the the Scottish teams

2016-05-17 09:30:29 · answer #10 · answered by ? 3 · 0 0

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