Nietzsche blamed Christianity for what he regarded as the three great evils of the modern world: socialism, feminism and democracy. His idea was that the basic mistake taught by Christianity was the equality of everyone in the sight of God. It is clear that these three things have largely developed in Christian nations (though democracy has its roots in pagan Greece).
Nietzsche also blamed Christianity for teaching the value of compassion rather than domination.
Was he right?
2007-04-30
05:12:41
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I think the point I'm getting at is that even the atheist philosopher Nietzsche drew the connections between e.g. Christianity and democracy, and most people would regard democracy as a good thing (whatever about socialism or some kinds of feminism). The fact that he deplored all of those things and blamed Christianity for them, does not go against the fact that he was aware of the causal connection and drew attention to it. (Though in his case it was as blame rather than praise.)
It is true that democracy originated in ancient Greece, but in modern times Christian countries have been the only countries, by and large, where it has been successfully practiced: e.g. democracy in Japan is skin-deep, and in Turkey it is under threat from fundamentalist Islam as we can see from the TV.
2007-04-30
05:25:19 ·
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Women in ancient Greece and Rome (pre-Christian) had few if any rights. We don't know much about what went on in pre-historical pagan cultures, for obvious reasons that nothing was written down.
2007-04-30
05:27:40 ·
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Well, I think feminism, democracy, and compassion are good things, and I see some connection between these concepts and Christianity, but they connect to other ideas and religions, too.
2007-04-30 05:17:42
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answered by GreenEyedLilo 7
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Greek and Roman cultures had some anti-feminist stances, but don't make the mistake of thinking they were fully representative of everyone else. The ancient Celts were renowned for their social advancement in regards to women. That's backed not only by what the Celts left behind (in terms of artifacts and stories), but also by what the Greeks and Romans wrote about them.
And very few of the modern countries practice democracy, pure and true. You're more apt to find democratic principles being injected into other forms of government (such as a republic).
2007-05-01 02:28:24
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answered by ArcadianStormcrow 6
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Only partially. For one thing, I wouldn't "blame" Christianity for teaching the value of compassion, since that is a good thing which is not blameworthy.
However, modern socialism and feminism are based upon not Christianity, but atheism and evolutionism. The earliest forms of feminism in the beginning of the 20th century were actually by God-fearing Christian women who were pro-life and only wanted to improve conditions for working women and families. Somehow, it degenerated into the atheistic, lesbian-dominated, anti-family and anti-life movement of today. Susan B. Anthony would turn over in her grave.
You are right that democracy has its roots in pagan Greece, but democracy technically is not the same as our form of government as the Founding Fathers created, which was a Constitutional Republic. Democracies ALWAYS become dictatorships, which is why it makes me nervous when the president says, "We're going to spread democracy around the world". Our Constitutional Republic is gradually degrading into this type of government; the checks and balances intended to keep activist judges and rogue presidents in check are not being utilized. Our government is being controlled by the Almighty Dollar and special interest groups, not by congress. We are slowly becoming an oligarchy.
2007-04-30 05:30:51
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answered by FUNdie 7
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hang on, when did Christianity evey teach "the equality of everyone in the sight of God"? According to the Bible, women are clearly inferior.
Feminism is a backlash against patriarchy which is supported by religion. Socialism goes WITH the teachings of Christ, and democracy was around long before christianity.
Nietsche had some great ideas and some BS, choose for yourself what rings true.
2007-04-30 05:20:22
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answered by zmj 4
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Strange, I have always heard that Christianity put down women. Women use to be worshiped in many Pagan religions, and this was put down by Christianity. Also, women were not allowed to hold any positions of power in the Church, whereas other Pagan religions of the time did allow this. This also stems from traditional Judaism which does not have equal rights for women. For example, in Orthodox Judaism (a very strict traditional form of the religion), women are not allowed to stay with the men during service, they are separated.
2007-04-30 05:19:58
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answered by Justin 2
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i do no longer believe which you will blame Christianity for feminism or the different 2 "evils," in step with Nietzsche's diagnosis. Egalitarianism became uncommon interior the classic international as evidenced by using the writings of Plato and Aristotle. however the Stoics believed that each physique creatures are fragments of the divine and fellow international voters or cosmopolitans. besides, Nietzsche's entire thought of slave morality or ressentiment is uncovered in Scheler's artwork in this undertaking. The phenomenological realists additionally build on Scheler's diagnosis of the virtues juxtaposed with ressentiment and sound the dying knell for Nietzsche's kinfolk tree of morals. besides, different social forces have been at artwork that brought about feminism. What with regard to the Enlightenment or the wholesale marginalization of ladies human beings as probably factors that bring about the introduction of feminism?
2017-01-09 04:00:51
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answered by moffitt 4
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Nietzshe like many imperic philosophers was attempting to rationalize the world using only his perceptions and knowledge he could read from other philosophers. This only confused Nietzshe's thoughts. Nietzshe wasn't interested in theology (where spirit and the nature of God are discussed in terms outside the material physical universe), and in his opinion, if you couldn't detect it, it didn't exist. That is his bias whether he is right or wrong.
The question I would ask Nietzshe after his death (if one could) would be: Did all this crap you researched and wrote make you a happier person?
2007-04-30 05:29:48
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answered by Yoda 6
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Yes, all the anti-female verses in the Bible were just put there as a joke.
In exactly the same way, Christianity is responsible for the growth of homosexuality - those verses are jokes too.
You still take Nietzsche seriously? Really?
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2007-04-30 05:19:04
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answered by abetterfate 7
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Christianity makes it very clear all throughout, that women are not equal to men in that deity's eyes. One of the reasons I could not abide it. If Nietzsche did in fact say that, he had his head in a tight dark place.
Also I have to say that Christians are not any more compassionate than anyone else, and sometimes, unfortunately, less so. So, no, he wasn't right. Christianity is very hierarchal.
2007-04-30 05:23:49
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answered by KC 7
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I don't think so.... feminism is not necesarily a 'christian' ideal.... I personally don't have a problem with men being the head of the household, and making the decisions of what happens within their families, as long as they are Good Willed (following God)... I believe we are 'equal' but different....
2007-04-30 05:22:34
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answered by livinintheword † 6
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