To my fellow serious Christians. What can we do take the USA back from these people?

Question

I would love to see this country become biblically based. Only then will we not have to worry about school shootings, rape, murder, etc.

I'm not even going to get into how this country was founded, and what principle's it was founded on. All of these Bill Clinton types will spend the next 25 hours lecturing me on how Thomas Jefferson wasn't a Catholic. Like that even matters.

No. This is about getting the lord into our homes and our hearts. Our schools will allow this gay stuff to be talked about, but not a bible study.

Think about that for a minute, you people. We can have Timmy walk around in a dress, and that is "his right" and we should "give him a cookie". But if you want your children to actually be literate on the bible, the source of life, you will be lectured and taken to court.

I spit on these silly liberal notions.

Answer 1

The bible tells us this is the way the world will go.

Answer 2

And... there is no God-sanctioned rape and murder in the bible? People never kill or do bad things in the name of God? That's news to me.
Not only was Thomas Jefferson not catholic... he was probably an atheist. And this country was founded on the principle of freedom of religion. There is no (official) religion test for political office and you've only got to read the first amendment to know this country was never meant to be a Christian nation.
This country was set up to be pluralistic but because the majority was (and still is Christian) and minorities never used to speak up, it never worked out that way. But you can't teach one person's holy book as truth in a pluralistic society in a public school.

Besides, even if it were possible to make the United States a Christian nation, would it even be desirable to believers? The United States has the most religious citizens when compared to other western nations. The result of freedom of religion seems to be that it makes religion more individual and therefore more deeply felt. To base an entire nation on the bible would mean a bunch of unbelievers (like yours truly) going through the motions just to keep out of jail (or from being executed.) That's not even true belief anyway. It's not going to "save" anyone's soul.

Answer 3

I am so happy that you want your lord in your heart and in your home, other than in your church, that the only place that should be concerned about your religion.

School is for teaching social and job skills, your home and your church is where you should be concentrating on teaching morals and ethics.

The fact that you believe the bible is "the source of life", is fine for you and people who think like you, there are however a lot of law abiding, tax paying citizens you do not believe as you do who want the school system to be an equal playing field for all it's students, not just those who believe or follow one particular religion or political party.

For the record there have been Jews, Muslims, Pagans and Atheist in this country since it's founding, the US has never been a "Christian Nation", except in the minds of those who believe that oft passed around fairy tale.


You can't "take back" what was never truly your to start with.

Answer 4

You won't.

First, we do have to get into how it was founded. The Founding Fathers never mentioned the name of God in the Constitution. They denied it was Christian in our treaty with Tripoli. They used Deist language in the Declaration of Independence. It was *never* Christian.

In fact, quite to the contrary, its founding principles were designed to mitigate and undermine the value of religion. To create in us, to borrow from John Locke (the most influential philosopher on our nation), an "enlightened self-interest" where we would relate to one another on a rational basis. That is, we would respect one another, because we benefit off of it. That would mean that it was founded to mitigate Christianity, and I'll leave you to deduce where that lies (I'll give you a hint; it starts with an "a" and has been around for a long while).

Onto the present, Christendom fell everywhere it was present because the people didn't want it anymore. At the beginning of WWI, most of the West still tried to hold onto Christian values in government and education (we and France led the way away from that). Afterwards, they overthrew their governments and instituted democracies, which were quickly corrupted by fascism and Communism (in Russia). Then after WWII, Christianity was finished in Europe. Because the wars didn't take place over here our decline has been slower, but we're going in the same general direction. It is ironic that we were the first to start down this path, but we are the slowest to go all the way.

You cannot force on people what they don't want. Christendom fell only because people didn't want it anymore. For the moment, there is very little we can do to change that point.

Answer 5

Speaking as a Christian I must say your entire tone is very un-Christ like. I am not aware of Christ using phrases such as "I spit on these silly liberal notions". Speaking of Christ, can you show me where He mentioned homosexuality? Or the part where He said his teaching should come from government entities rather than from family and fellow believers? I certainly don't remember anywhere in the gospels in which He indicated his teachings should be forced or legislated. Maybe your bible differs.

While this nation was created utilizing some christian principals (I say some because slavery doesn't quite meet my idea of those principals) it was not designed to solely follow any one religios belief.

If you really consider yourself a follower of Christ emulate him. Reach people through modelling His life, through loving others and caring for others as he did. Not through attacking those that may be different and pushing to legislate your beliefs.

Answer 6

...A few suggestions:
...My observation is that for years, believers have pulled backed from the mainstream; it wasn't Christian to be a news broadcaster; Christians pulled back from having direct influence on the types of movies Hollywood makes; slowly the Gospel message left the Ivy League (look at Harvard now - a haven for anti-Christ types) schools, who were founded to trained ministers of the Gospel.
...For some reason, Christians have just backed off. Many churches no longer have outreach or training in proclaiming the Gospel.
...Christians, take that secular job or that missions position. Get out in the marketplace with the Gospel.
...We need to pray, pray, pray, and get the Gospel and the Word of God out of our pews and into the marketplace.
...The apostles and early Christians were accused of "filling Jerusalem with their doctrine" - could the same be said of us...hardly!
...By His grace and His strength, get the Gospel out!
...And practice the love of Christ to believers and non-believers, too. Look for common ground, and practical ways to help others.
...Amen!

Answer 7

The US was founded, and remains, a secular nation. This country was created by people who left Europe for the exact reason...to escape a government sponsored religion. It is not a liberal idea to keep religion out of government, it is a practical and logical need in order to keep the freedoms we all cherish.

Answer 8

Jesus knew that the only practical thing to do was to teach others by setting(living) the example. it's as true now as it was then. show others all the good that comes from being a "serious christian" and some(of course,not all) people will follow suit. where it would make life easier if everyone were of one mind,it's not realistic to expect that to ever be. a balance between good & evil is do-able.

Answer 9

If you want to 'win back the country' then why not actually proclaim your point of view, using the freedom that you are guaranteed by the Constitution, and persuade people to change their minds and follow the views that you consider appropriate? To think that you can simply have yourself elected supreme dictator and then make everyone do what you want is...how shall I put it?...unlikely to be effective, although by all means try!

Answer 10

We may be too far gone. We (The United State) have wandered too far away from God and his teachings. Yes, seperation of church and state is one of this countries principles, but the United States of America was a Christian country when it was founded and for years lived according to Christian morals. It wasn't until the 1950's and 1960's that our country started a downhill slide from basic Bible teachings. Now in the age of "political correctness", we have forgotten our Christian roots and have basically taken God out of the picture all togther.

I am just glad that God does not destroy cities anymore, like he did with Sodom and Gomorrah. Many US cities would be in for a shock if He did.

Answer 11

If you want to be in a religiously-run country, why don't you move to Afghanistan? This country was founded on a separation of church and state. If you have a problem with the Constitution, perhaps you should find another place to live.