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Being, not born of a Mother or a ..............Father? Before dogma, virgin birth was known for what it is, you can understand now and perhaps later know with your own mind,.......... look! ~ : )

2007-04-29 15:36:37 · 13 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

Sunman: ~ : ) You like I have "wondered", later, after, not so much at the unseen for we have seen, but at what is seen, all of the seeming variety, it is truly amazing. ~ : )

2007-04-29 16:06:42 · update #1

Welchchick: Please punch in Thunder Perfect Mind and hit search on the web. ~ : )

2007-04-29 18:13:20 · update #2

cosmicaware1: This great light that shines everywhere, is there nothing that is not known? ~ : )

2007-04-30 16:08:39 · update #3

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Cosmic: you are daring me to remember
and explain the unbelievable and undeniable.
Yes, I have been to the beginning and I've seen the First Light. I know, there is no beginning and I have always been, but I'm telling you I've been to the beginning and I've seen the First Light.


-----yes, unbelievable and undeniable.

2007-04-29 15:56:07 · answer #1 · answered by ? 6 · 1 0

No, the one asking the question cannot know its original birth. Nor can the I, who is responding to this question. The self cannot know itself, or its origin, it is itself, it is the knowing....The self was not born of a mother or father. These are terms used in the experience of manifestation that has no meaning in the formless. Oh well, how could I know? I am just dreaming anyway, right "At The Moment".

2007-04-30 10:04:56 · answer #2 · answered by cosmicaware1 2 · 2 0

Catholic belief is that all of us, Mary included, need a Redeemer because of our fallen nature and that no one can attain Heaven without His Blood. We are saved from our fallen nature by His grace alone through faith that worketh in charity. Mary, though, because God knew how she would use the free will He gave to her, was saved, by His grace, from having a fallen nature at the moment of her conception. She was redeemed from her mother's womb, an act planned from Genesis 3 so that she could act as the New Eve and so that Christ could be born of vessel even more pure than the Ark of the Covenant. Christ would not have been born from that which is impure! God knew of Mary's will to serve even before she was conceived. He knew she would say yes to Him, and He saved her at her first moment.

Three things in the Bible lead some Protestants to believe that Mary was not ever-virgin: the reference to Jesus' "brothers", the use of the word "until" in Matthew 1:25, and the reference to Jesus as Mary's "firstborn."

Jesus could well have had step-brothers, as Church Tradition and early Church writings tell us that Joseph was an older man when Mary, a consecrated virgin, was betrothed to him so that he could act as her protector when she got to be of age enough to "defile the Temple" (though she could not, in fact defile the Temple). Please read the Protoevangelium of St. James, dated to ca A.D. 125, which, in chapter 9, clearly states that St. Joseph had other children from a former marriage. Though this document was rejected by the Church as being a part of infallible Scripture, it is very early evidence of the belief, held as possisble from the beginning of the Church, that Jesus had "brothers" because his earthly father, Joseph, had children when he married Mary, a consecrated virgin. Also see the apocryphal document, the Gospel of the Nativity of Mary, yet another early source which proves that many of the earliest Christians believed in Mary's consecrated virginity, that Joseph was an aged man when he married her, and that she was kept free from sin.


Yet another poser: why, in the name of all that's Holy, would Jesus give Mary to John to care for if He had all these brothers and sisters around? John 19:26-27 reads, "When Jesus therefore saw his mother, and the disciple standing by, whom he loved, He saith unto his mother, Woman, behold thy son! Then saith He to the disciple, Behold thy mother! And from that hour that disciple took her unto his own home."

Some Protestants say that the use of the word "firstborn" indicates that Mary had other children, but they are simply being ignorant of Jewish law, Pidyon ha-Ben in particular. Pidyon ha-Ben is the "Redemption of the Firstborn," who were to have been consecrated to God and serve as priests and Temple workers. The "firstborn" is the male child that "opens the womb". If the child that "opens the womb" is a female child, there is no "firstborn" for the family because the child that "opened the womb" is not a masculine child. If no more children are born after the firstborn, the firstborn still has the status and title of "firstborn."

Mary remained both sinless and a virgin her entire life.

2007-05-02 15:33:42 · answer #3 · answered by Isabella 6 · 0 0

I was a CIA lab experiment I have an extra gene and although I am classed as human perfection they found I was unhappy due to lack of equals so classed experiment as a failure

2007-04-29 22:41:45 · answer #4 · answered by Anonymous · 1 0

Thats common... Often get it in the teen section.

ie getting pregnant without penetrative intercourse.

Ie sperm on fingers or guy cumming on sheets then girl sitting on the dolop of sperm getting it on her girlie bits, or drips or squrts on her girlie bits,


It dribbling down or wiped from belly and butt or inner legs into the wet reprodutive zone and it swimming in.


or going though panites after over panties rubbing (especailly lacy ones)


etc etc...


Often how teenagers who are virgins get pregnant even though it was only 3rd base stuff.

ie cmmon things any coupl in love do especially when young that they dont know can get them pregnant

2007-04-30 04:48:22 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Name a person who was not a virgin at birth, and I will change my mind to your warped one!

2007-04-29 23:24:36 · answer #6 · answered by Welshchick 7 · 2 0

I'm pretty sure I was a virgin when I was born -- my mother wasn't, though.

2007-04-29 22:40:29 · answer #7 · answered by Resident Heretic 7 · 2 0

I cannot remember when I switched my heart on or when it was of a condition worthy of being called "on".

2007-04-30 14:18:59 · answer #8 · answered by Paul B 2 · 0 0

no, I was there but I was to young to understand. Jesus birth is a miracle thus you are incorrect.in your assessment

2007-04-29 22:44:38 · answer #9 · answered by j.wisdom 6 · 0 0

ummm, was it red or white wine and how much of it did you smoke?

2007-04-29 22:40:59 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 2 0

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