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I asked the Lord and I have a problem with this being true. Jesus was beat up & the image isn't. His face should have been swollen & not look human. His hands would have been contorted, etc.

The Lord pointed his scars out to me last night in a vision. That the nail went between the forfinger & middle finger hand bones and were ripped apart. And the sword in his side was His right side, inner lower right rib. And the wounds on his forhead where they are but hard to see because of the brightness of His face.

The Lord told me the Turin wasn't His Image.

2007-04-29 12:38:06 · 24 answers · asked by t_a_m_i_l 6 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

RobertK, The Lord tells me I'm gifted prophetically.

2007-04-29 13:01:14 · update #1

friendshipband, I know the world tells us that Jesus had to nailed through the wrists, and I asked the Lord about this too. He was wounded in His wrists also. But the bible clearly says He was nailed in His hands. So, I choose the Holy Bible over human speculation. And I trust the vision of Jesus I just experienced. It was a complete answer to the questions I have asked.

2007-04-29 13:07:10 · update #2

Sun,
I go to the Lord every day for professional help. The Lord is my healer.

Anyone born of God can pray to God in spirit & truth 24/7 & God gives answers. And also it is written that blessed are the pure in heart for they shall see God. Even though I haven't seen Jesus in His resurrected physical body, doesn't mean I didn't see a vision of Him. This is the first time this vision happened. It is an answer to prayer.

2007-04-30 03:31:06 · update #3

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nope.

Shroud “A Fake”

• The “Shroud of Turin” is reputed to show a miraculous image of Christ imprinted on a cloth that wrapped Jesus’ body after his death. Recently, scientists examined the relic, and findings of one researcher were reported in England’s Yorkshire “Post.” Dr. Walter C. McCrone told the British Society for the Turin Shroud in London that he has detected microscopic quantities of red oxide clinging to the surface of the cloth. He said that this was similar to the earth pigments many artists use.

Calling the shroud “a fake,” he stated that if radiocarbon dating tests were taken, the cloth would probably date to the 14th century, adding: “It was very fashionable to make frauds at that time.” However, the “Post” observes: “What many believe to be the ‘acid test’ for the shroud, carbon dating, has so far been resisted by the Church on grounds it would destroy part of the cloth.”

When interviewed on the BBC Radio 4 “Today” program, Dr. McCrone asserted: “I don’t think there’s any possibility that I could be wrong. The particles of iron oxide that I found convince me that pigments would have had to . . . [be] applied in the way that an artist would have put it on.” Whether he is right or not, such controversies illustrate the superiority of the truly Christian position: “We walk by faith and not by sight.”—2 Cor. 5:7, Catholic “Douay Version.”

The Shroud of Turin—Burial Cloth of Jesus?

BY AWAKE! CORRESPONDENT IN ITALY

From April 18 to June 14, 1998, the shroud, or cloth, said to have wrapped the body of Jesus of Nazareth following his death was exhibited in Italy at the Cathedral of San Giovanni Battista, in Turin. It was kept in an airtight, bulletproof glass case filled with an inert gas. There it was maintained under stable climatic conditions.

VISITORS passed before the well-protected shroud on three raised walkways at slightly different levels. This enabled all to get the best view. Visits were limited to two minutes and were on a strictly reservations-only basis. Emotions ranged from ecstatic, tearful meditation to simple curiosity. There were reportedly about 2.5 million visitors.

“What is the shroud to you?” was the oft-asked question. For anyone fond of discussing religion, the occasion provided opportunity to examine the subject more closely and to reread the pages of the Bible that refer to Jesus’ burial.—See the box on the following page.

The shroud is a linen cloth 14 feet 3 inches long and 3 feet 7 inches wide [436 x 110 cm] that bears the superficial imprint of the body of a man who, it is claimed, met a violent death. But the question is, Was this Shroud of Turin the one used to wrap the body of Jesus over 19 centuries ago?

Historical Developments

“There is no evidence of a shroud during the first centuries of the Christian era,” says the New Catholic Encyclopedia. In 544 C.E., an image reputedly not made with human hands turned up at Edessa, a location in modern-day Turkey. The image was said to depict the face of Jesus. In 944 C.E., it was claimed that the image was in Constantinople. Most historians, however, don’t believe this was what is now known as the Shroud of Turin.

In France, during the 14th century, a shroud was possessed by Geoffroi de Charny. In 1453, possession of it passed to Louis, Duke of Savoy, who transferred it to a church at Chambéry, the Savoyard capital. From there, in 1578, Emmanuel Philibert took it to Turin.

Various Opinions

In 1988 the then archbishop of Turin, Anastasio Ballestrero, had the Shroud of Turin examined by radiocarbon dating to determine its age. The tests, conducted by three prestigious laboratories in Switzerland, England, and the United States, revealed it to be medieval, thus belonging to a period long after the death of Christ. Ballestrero accepted the verdict, declaring in an official statement: “In entrusting the evaluation of these results to science, the church reiterates its respect and veneration for this venerable icon of Christ, which remains an object of devotion for the faithful.”

The present archbishop, Giovanni Saldarini, declared: “We cannot say that the image is the image of Christ lowered from the cross.” Yet, at the same time, he asserted: “There is no doubt that the believer can see in that imprint the image of the man described by the Gospels.” On May 24, 1998, while the shroud was on exhibit, Pope John Paul II called the image “the imprint left by the tortured body of the Crucified One.”

As can be seen, the evidence weighs heavily against the Shroud of Turin being the burial cloth of Jesus. But what if it were? Would it be proper for someone who wants to obey the teachings of the Bible to venerate that cloth?

Consider the second of the Ten Commandments, which says, according to a Roman Catholic translation of the Bible: “You shall not make yourself a carved image or any likeness of anything in heaven above or on earth beneath or in the waters under the earth. You shall not bow down to them.” (Exodus 20:4, 5, New Jerusalem Bible) Indeed, true Christians take to heart the words of the apostle Paul: “We are walking by faith, not by sight.”—2 Corinthians 5:7; 1 John 5:21.

2007-04-29 12:40:22 · answer #1 · answered by Tim 47 7 · 3 2

Absolutely false! The shroud, measuring 14 feet, 4 inches by 3 feet, 7 inches has been Carbon dated in tests by laboratories in Oxford, Zurich and Arizona as dating from between 1260 and 1390. This has not been discredited and stands as true! Shrouds at the time of Jesus were two or three pieces and no record of a single piece shroud has been found! The cloth of shrouds of the time were a simple single weave. The Turin shroud is a far more sophisticated double weave not found before the middle ages! The shroud was easily replicated using materials found to have been used by Leonardo da Vinci who is thought to have been the faker! As Christianity's most disputed relics, it is locked away at Turin Cathedral in Italy and further tests have been refused. If it was genuine why refuse test that might confirm that?! The Catholic Church does not claim the shroud is authentic nor that it is a matter of faith, but says it should be a powerful reminder of Christ's passion. People who claim it is genuine tie it so closely to Christianity that as more and more proof shows it to be a forgery and a hoax that is how Christianity will be seen!

2016-04-01 01:22:15 · answer #2 · answered by ? 4 · 0 0

The preponderance of evidence points to it being the shroud of Jeuss and you cherry picking bible verses does at change the evidence . Your also bringing up old evidence that's been debunked.

And cherry picking bible verses where you claim that god doesn't want us to have any images is false. In fact God told David when building his most sacred place of worship to build and place images of cherubim in the temple. These are statues at are images of angels. Cherubim are God's second highest order of angels.

And on too if that the shroud doesn't violate that old test,met. Osas law commandment because we believe that the shroud is an image not made by human hands.

Why not actually reach the shroud more?
And saying you spoke to The Lord and he told u that the shroud is a fake. What happens when someone else claims The Lord tells them that it's real.

Notice how the atheists are all answering in the same way you are, from ignorance with no facts.

2014-04-05 19:40:14 · answer #3 · answered by Bob 6 · 0 0

No, I don't think the dates matched up. I am a very serious devout Christian. I believe it may be a real burial cloth, but not old enough, or reliably documented to say it was the shroud Jesus was buried in.
We must not forget-all throughout history Catholics have been obsessed with religious relics. This obsession opens many doors for tom-foolery.

2007-04-29 12:43:38 · answer #4 · answered by Desperado 5 · 1 0

yes I have seen the proof that verifies the shroud of Turin, as the shroud of Jesus.
i believe that it is his image.

the latest scientific testing show the the earlier test were taken from an edge of the cloth that had been tarnished,
it also compared the shroud to a face cloth that had been very well documented since the second century, and it had the same blood on it.

2007-04-29 12:44:50 · answer #5 · answered by Hannah's Grandpa 7 · 0 0

I don't want to tell you who you saw in your bedroom last night, but you cannot hang from a cross as you just described it. The nailprints would have to be at the wristbone to hang from the cross. I'm sorry to say that the early artists did not get this right when they depicted Christ on the cross.

2007-04-29 12:46:22 · answer #6 · answered by rapturefuture 7 · 0 0

Mam, if you are hearing voices from God I seriously suggest you speak to a Psychiatrist.

I am not joking about this I am quite serious. Hearing voices and seeing visions can be the cause of a host of psychological issues.

for your own mental health and for the safety of those around you I beg you to seek help.

Again I have a brother who is schizophrenic and he also speaks with God.

Such things are treatable but you must seek help.

2007-04-29 12:44:08 · answer #7 · answered by Gamla Joe 7 · 1 1

Everyone knows that the shroud is a fake. However, that should not stop christians from believing that it is true in spirit. In fact, many christians use this boring excuse to not care that it is a fake.

2007-04-29 12:48:27 · answer #8 · answered by Fred 7 · 1 0

I just went to google images and looked the shroud up. The images scared the crap out of me, because i was expecting the images to load up slow and the picture to be low detail.

2007-04-29 12:42:12 · answer #9 · answered by Kyle 4 · 0 1

Well, certainly forensic evidence has placed it in the right time and places. There is also forensic evidence that could fit the suffering that Jesus underwent. Can we know for certain, no. Has there been any negative effects from this, none that I know. If it doesn't boster your faith, then don't worry about it. If it bolsters your neighbor's then be happy for them.

2007-04-29 12:45:50 · answer #10 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

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