did jesus died for everyone for just the "chosen" people?

Question

a lot of places in the bible says that jesus died for everyone ....etc
but romans 9 it said that god chose the people he will save....blah blah..
so...how do i know which is right?

Answer 1

he died for all of us, so that your sins are forgiven and it's possible for human to reconcile with GOD

Answer 2

If God is choosing who is saved, doesn’t that undermine our free will to chose and believe in Christ? The Bible says that we have the free will choice – all we have to do is believe in Jesus Christ and we will be saved (John 3:16; Romans 10:9-10). The Bible never describes God rejecting anyone who believes in Him or turning away anyone who was seeking Him (Deuteronomy 4:29). Somehow, in the mystery of God, predestination works hand in hand with a person being drawn by God (John 6:44) and believing unto salvation (Romans 1:16). God predestines who will be saved, and we must choose Christ in order to be saved. Both facts are equally true. Romans 11:33 proclaims, “Oh, the depth of the riches of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable His judgments, and His paths beyond tracing out!”

Answer 3

I think you are misinterpreting Romans 9. I think it means God foreknows WHO will choose HIM..(I usually read that in an Amplified Bible. It is easier to understand). But Jesus died for everyone. It's not some Christian country club for a few special people. (I think Romans 9 is referring to the fact that although he died for all, not all are going to receive him)...and I don't have any special label. I am just a believer and interpret it the way the Holy Spirit shows me.

Answer 4

I believe you were referring to Romans 9:16 where it says,

"...God will show mercy to anyone He chooses." (NLT)

Here, Paul the author of Romans, was referring to Moses (vs. 15 &16) and how the Israelites were bound up in sin. If God would act justly, He could wipe them out, but He chose to have mercy on them.

Romans 3:23 - "For all have sinned; all fall short of God's glorious standard." (NLT)

When God says He "will show mercy to anyone he chooses" (vs. 16) all He is saying is that He is not obligated to show mercy to anyone. In the context of Romans 9:14-18, it was going back to Exodus 33:19 when God was speaking specifically about the Israelites/His "chosen people". This does not exclude everyone else though. It is all in the context and who the passage was referring to.

By all means, God died for everyone. We are told multiple times right through Romans.

Romans 5:8, 6:23, 8:1, 10:13 (examples)

I really like this one...
'For "Anyone who calls on the name of the Lord will be saved."' (Romans 10:13)

In conclusion to your question, "yes" Jesus did die for everyone. The reason it sounds like it might conflict is because of the context.

Good Question! Please let me know if you have any more!

Answer 5

You just have to read the arguments on both sides. Here's a few book recommendations:

Chosen But Free by Norman Geisler
The Potter's Freedom by James White
Debating Calvinism by James White and Dave Hunt

And since I fall on the Calvinist side...
The Justification of God by John Piper

Answer 6

Jesus died for all who would accept his dying on the cross as payment for their sin.If you have accepted this that he was born of a virgin - lived - died and resurrected. Than you are part of the chosen= Chosen simply means you choose to accept but if you hear it from a calvinist they will tell you - that God only chose a certian few to be saved.But don't listen to that it's not bible. God don't force his self on no one. When he comes to us thru the Holy Spirit- it's up to us to accept or not. He is only required to come to all of us one time- if he comes back more - than it's only because he loves us.

Answer 7

Jesus, tells us in the book of john " that i am the truth the way and the light, the only way to the father is through me"so yes Jesus freely gave his life for all who believe in what he has done and excepts the work on the cross. the chosen people is usually talking about the Jews
(john 14:6)

Answer 8

He died for everyone in that all have the option to choose to be with our Creator. Because God has the foreknowledge, He can speak of things as existing (being chosen) even though as yet they do not exist, because He knows they are going to exist. Futhermore He which has begun a good work in us shall surely continue to perform it. And so we can rest in the fact that God has already spoken in the past tense of my future state of being chosen and glorified together with Jesus Christ. We have got it made!

Answer 9

The OT was given to the nation Israel and consisted of the Law and the covenants with God to His chosen people. He wanted chosen people to whom He might entrust the Holy Scriptures, to be His witness to the other nations, and through whom the promised Messiah could come.

The NT was written to reveal to us the character and teachings of Jesus Christ (Messiah), the mediator of the New Covenant which includes all nations as fulfillment of the prophecy to Abraham (i.e., the father of many nations and tongues).

Answer 10

That is and has been one of the grreatest debates between Christians for centuries so I am sure you won't settle it here. It can't be decided by a vote, but my personal opinion is that He died for everyone. I am what they call a 4 point Calvinists. That is the one point I differ with Calvinists on.

Answer 11

Bible states that Jesus came into this world to save His (or chosen) people from their sin:
“You shall call His name Jesus, for He will save HIS PEOPLE from their sins.” Matthew 1:21.

This is also confirmed by Apostle Paul:
"Just as He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world, that we should be holy... having PREDESTINED us to adoption as sons by Jesus Christ to Himself, according to the good pleasure of His will.” Ephesians." 1:4-5

If that’s not enough, Paul cites an example of predestination in Romans 9:

...When Rebecca also had conceived by one man, even by our father Isaac (for the children not yet being born, nor having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works but of Him who calls), it was said to her, “The older shall serve the younger.” As it is written, “Jacob I have loved, but Esau I have hated.”