The US Military was classicly defeated in Vietnam. The insurgents in Iraq don't have long to wait...?

Question

before they send Uncle Sam home with his tale between his legs. They're not so strong the US Military are they.

Yes, I agree with David M. Fighting without certain, eh... 'restrictions' would make it a lot easier.

Answer 1

The US Military was not defeated, the enemy has learned how to use the mass media to do a lot of their fighting for them. Remember how Jane Fonda sat behind an anti aircraft gun in North Viet Nam and made the remark that she wished one of our air plans would fly over at that moment so she could shoot it down? She should have been shot for treason but instead she walks freely because of millions of better people than herself, sacrificed them selves to defend this country. I feel some of the news people today in America should be ashamed of themselves "held accountable" on how they target the President of our great country while our men are on the battle field and being killed daily.

Answer 2

If you know anything at all about military history, which you obviously don't, the military was not classically defeated in Vietnam. The military's performance there was actually a victory, as the enemy's objective of overruning the south was never accomplished, and in fact, the enemy never won a tactical battle.

What happened in Vietnam is our government surrendered, much like the Democrats want to do now.

Of course, the situation is a little different. In Vietnam, there was the army of North Vietnam that they could decide had won that war. Iraq puts them in a very odd position.

If the United States has, indeed, lost the war in Iraq, as Harry Reid claims, exactly whom was it lost TO? Certainly not the terrorists, as surrendering to terrorism requires acknowledging them as an enemy to begin with, and that would demand a response.

Answer 3

Can I be honest? It's difficult to know who is winning over there for the layman.The American soldiers believe that they are winning.and they provide statistics.The insurgents believe that THEY are winning and provide statistics.
The U.S. government acts like it is having difficulty by sending over more troops and then saying if that doesn't work they will consider other options.
The insurgents have had Saddam captured and executed and have lost Zarqawi, Oday and Qusay.
SO they only way we will find out if the US is defeated is when they leave and Iraq sorts itself out.
If the government is like it was before then the US will have lost.
If it is pro Western then the US will have won.
The US military is plenty strong but they can't get enough troops over there to do the job.The insurgent numbers are growing every day-it is a popular cause.
The strategy of the US military is attrition - to kill all the insurgents-simple as that.
The problem with that strategy is that the insurgents in Iraq are like Hydra's teeth-for every one of them that goes in the ground several more rise up to replace them.
Not only that-but the present day insurgents will be the future leaders and politicians in Iraq-if they succeed at expelling the Americans.

Answer 4

"Defeat", if that's the ultimate suited notice, in Iraq is inevitable. Like Vietnam & Northern eire you are able to not defeat the enemy you are able to not perceive. The Iraqi human beings can not "pull mutually" they are too wrapped up of their non secular sects to truly style a working government in line with democracy. Like Afghanistan maximum of those ending up the assaults are in certainty from outdoors the rustic and there is an inexhaustible supply of those prepared to sacrifice their lives to fulfill Allah. the area in Basra is now untenable simply by fact the Iraqi military, in maximum cases infitrated via insurgents, took over the vast majority of the city and British troops are under on a daily basis attack. To retake the city would be impossible without incurring significant casualties simply by fact the insurgents at the instant are nicely entrenched in the community. the concern now dealing with British commanders is the thank you to withdraw without significant losses simply by proximity of the enemy. Basra would desire to be held. this is the sole path attainable for the withdrawal human beings forces contained in the North. The question is - at what value?

Answer 5

The US Military were defeated in Vietnam due to a combination of events. Primarily and No.: 1 because at the end of WW11, having fought thru the Pacific campaign and at its conclusion stood arrayed with the best Jungle warfare veterans any participating allied Nation then had. Within months, these regiments were totally disbanded, not even remnants were retained to continue, enhance, improve, carry on and instill in other units what had been so dearly paid for.

But jungle wars continued. I.e. the Malaya War, fought and ultimately won by the Brits! Its phsical endeavours ranged for 15 years, final peace was not gained for 26 years after that!

The outbreak of the Vietnam War left the US without Jungle vets to fight it! So the Allies of the the British Commonwealth were loned, sent, to train the Americans and render the vital necessities of jungle warfare, albeit they were re educating the sons of their Fathers who had fought the Pacific campaign.

But the American high command ignored all advice they were given, American politicians played games and the American men paid the price, as indeed did many thousands of foreign nationals who fought in it!

Answer 6

The most we can hope for in Iraq is to sustain the status quo until Iraq is able to take over their own country. The main objective was to get rid of Saddam Hussein and then to give them a chance for democracy which they may or may not want. The simple act of voting does not constitute a democracy. They will inevitably chose their own form of government and find peace in their own way.

I resent it that Reid said we lost the war. We can't win or lose this conflict. We are there to train Iraq's army and try to give them enough stability to take over. If we were there to win the war, we would blow up the Mosques and cemeteries where the enemy hides. We would go in to take over which we could easily do if not for the rules imposed on the military. If we did that, Iraq would turn on the U.S. completely. That's why they call it a quagmire.

Answer 7

You ask your question like a man who has no idea about the drive behind the insurgency in Iraq. The Vietnam war and the Gulf war(s) are hardly comparable.

I seriously doubt you could even point to Iraq on map.

Now go out and get yourself something pretty.

Answer 8

Don't make the mistake of thinking that the US threw everything they possibly could at the Vietnam conflict and were still beaten by a superior force comprised of peasants. That is simply not the case, do some research and see how the US military was reined in by Washington.

Answer 9

I'd like to know what you think a CLASSICAL DEFEAT is. There are a few things about you that is quite obvious:
1) You are quite ignorant of the history of the Viet Nam war.
2) You're an ignorant non-American, trying to BAD MOUTH America, the greatest nation in the world.
3) American POLITICIANS tried to run the war in Viet Nam instead of allowing the MILITARY who knows how to fight a war do it THEIR way.
4) American POLITICIANS PULLED the U.S. armed forces out and would not LET THEM WIN.
Now, you lying piece of dog crap, come to America and tell us how we're LOSERS and you'll be eating through a straw.
5) You're a borderline illiterate. Learn how to spell CLASSICALLY.
Kiss my Red White and Blue American (__!__) !
(USN, retired/in-country Viet Nam vet/proud American patriot)

Answer 10

all the military might in the world cant win a war if the people of Iraq aren't with you, and it seems to me they are not.
if the USA obliterated the whole of Iraq with their massive fire power, world opinion would be stacked against them, their credibility in the world would plummet and there would be a surge of so called terrorism the world has never witnessed before. So please all you Americans think very carefully about what you are doing in Iraq. Dont forget todays terrorists are tomorrows leaders