Do fundies try to disprove evolution as a way to try to get people to believe in god by default?

Question

There is a lot of evidence for evolution. Whether you believe it occured naturally or a higher being got the ball rolling that's up to you, but to try to discredit evolution as a way to try to get people to believe in god by default isn't the way to go.

frndofzion: Actually if there is a god what I would tell him would go more like this: If you judge me based on my beliefs and not more important things like my actions and personality, then FCK YOU, yours is not a presence I want to be around. If that sounds lame then so be it.

robert p: you have no idea whats so ever how evolution works. I appalud you though, since you did have the cajones to post your ideas.

Arnon: Actually i'm agnostic. Unlike you I don't take a stance on whether there is or isn't a god. It would be arrogant to claim that you know if god does or doesn't exist. Although at times(many times actually) I do sound like an atheist, I have never ruled out the fact that a god might exist. I don't think it's impossible that there might have been a creator but the evidence is suggest there wasn't. Especialy the christian one. The only one that makes sense is the deastic view of god, the god of nature. Anyways sorry for ranting, just don't judge people unless you really know them.

Answer 1

I think the biggest problem they have with evolution is the idea that man evolved from other primates. This means dealing with what is the real difference of man from other creatures on this world? This has always been the biggest stumbling block to deal with for fundamentalists.

They have no problem with bacteria, planets, or insects evolving into different species. But man, whoa, we have to put barriers there.

To me, that is sad, because personally, I think it is beautiful to think that all living creatures on this planet could essentially be considered related. And when you think about it like that, I don't see how you can't appreciate this wonderful planet we live on, regardless of your theological beliefs.

Answer 2

People who define "faith" as absolute acceptance of every statement in the Bible at face value, as "literal," historical, infallible truth, are evidently either ignorant or insane or both - in spite of the fact that there are a lot of them!

The result of "literalism" is that here in the 21st century there are people walking around outside of lunatic asylums who actually believe that the earth is 6,000 years old and dinosaurs lived with humans, and "I ain't come from no monkey" - which represents their grasp of evolution theory - etc. What can you say to these people? You might as well try to teach your dog the calculus.

The sad thing is that in insisting on the inessential aspects of religion, they have completely lost sight of the essentials. I'm not one to discredit the power of religion - that would indeed be irrational. But the essential Truth of religion is obviously not dogmatic, for the simple fact that no two religions agree; so to accept any one religion at its "face value" is to indict at least three quarters of the rest of humanity of acquiescence in fraud. This in spite of the fact that beneath the variances of form, there is an underlying "mystic" identity, as anybody knows who has made an intelligent study of comparative religion.

Answer 3

Although I am not a fundie as I understand it, I can say to you that you do not understand the objection to evolution theory. It shows by your "either or" of "it occured naturally or by a higher being". Why are thes two methods mutually exclusive? You see, while you propose that fundies cannot have evolution with God, you apparently cannot have God with evolution. To the faithful, a higher being is the natural course. And so, before you accuse fundies or christians or Catholics or whomever of ulterior motives in discrediting evolution, look at your own motives in discrediting God or in supporting a theory that is just as unprovable scientifically as God is.

Answer 4

I think they want to disprove it because they believe it disproves their own religious beliefs, or at least gets in the way. If you are a "mainstream" Christian, then you can accept God-inspired evolution, but fundamentalists believe the world was really created in 6 days as in 24-hour cycles and that the earth is only 6,000 years old or so, which directly conflicts with evolution. And if evolution is right, then oops, they're wrong.

Other arguments I've heard: evolution takes away the need for God, or evolution teaches that man is not special (as is taught in creationism) but just a product of many many years of natural selection and gene mutation.

Answer 5

I cannot speak for the thought processes (or more properly, the lack of such) of people who deny evolution. Evolution has been established science for a century, meaning that people routinely use the theory to make correct predictions about how things work. It is almost irrelevant that the theory is now a proven fact, as any educated person understands that it is correct.

Answer 6

Evolution proves that the Native American spiritual belief system is scientific fact : ) "We are all related, everything is connected : ) No problem with it..... Less some holes in it theoretically, like not enough transitional skeletal remains of early humans, and so forth, but quite possible, especially transformation processes in human populations.......

Answer 7

Honestly, I have no idea.
I can't see how the validity of evolutionary theory can impact Christian doctrine in any way. Theologians interpreted the Genesis account allegorically long before the theory of evolution.

Answer 8

You are correct... if they can discredit evolution, then their creation story must be the truth by default. It's erroneous thinking and they ignore all of the evidence of evolution while believing the bible as fact. Silly, isn't it?

Answer 9

I think they are hoping people will fall for the logical fallacy of 'not this, then that' - that if evolution isn't true, then god must be real. Which of course doesn't follow at all. But they've said it so often that they are hoping people won't actually think about it.

Answer 10

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