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And since religion isn't any sort of place to be getting your morals from, maybe an education would be a better use of you time instead of praying.
Oh and as far as jesus never existing goes - Jesus was a story created by desperate jews living in Judea under the Roman Empire. They wanted to be liberated through their messiah 'prophecy' so they threw together aspects of pagan myths (Horus, Mithras and others) and created an imaginary friend for themselves. If you repeat a lie for long enough and you have enough 'witnesses', that lie becomes the truth.

2007-04-27 15:57:35 · 34 answers · asked by Biggest Douche in the Universe 3 in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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Many people bearing the name of Jesus existed at the time. Of course, there are clear examples of the church changing the teachings of any religious Jesus which might have existed since the founding of a centralized church authority.

You are right, morality comes from the social ties, traditions, and values we develop throughout our lives. Christianity in its present form more often promote bigotry and hate than love for the fellow man.

2007-04-27 16:09:09 · answer #1 · answered by Jett 4 · 1 2

So Jesus never existed. I can buy that, how do we really know? Just that there were about 20 ancient books written about him in the Bible, not to mention the gospel of Thomas, which is dated much nearer to the supposed time of Jesus. In The Historical Figure of Jesus, E.P. Sanders used Alexander the Great as a paradigm—the available sources tell us much about Alexander’s deeds, but nothing about his thoughts. "The sources for Jesus are better, however, than those that deal with Alexander" and "the superiority of evidence for Jesus is seen when we ask what he thought."[64] Thus, Sanders considers the quest for the Historical Jesus to be much closer to a search for historical details on Alexander than to those historical figures with adequate documentation.

Consequently, scholars like Sanders, Geza Vermes, John P. Meier, David Flusser, James H. Charlesworth, Raymond E. Brown, Paula Fredriksen and John Dominic Crossan argue that, although many readers are accustomed to thinking of Jesus solely as a theological figure whose existence is a matter only of religious debate, the four canonical Gospel accounts are based on source documents written within decades of Jesus' lifetime, and therefore provide a basis for the study of the "historical" Jesus. These historians also draw on other historical sources and archaeological evidence to reconstruct the life of Jesus in his historical and cultural context. The rejection of the existence of Jesus is not historical and not educated in the least bit. This view has not found acceptance by the historical community. Michael Grant stated that the view is derived from a lack of application of historical methods:

…if we apply to the New Testament, as we should, the same sort of criteria as we should apply to other ancient writings containing historical material, we can no more reject Jesus' existence than we can reject the existence of a mass of pagan personages whose reality as historical figures is never questioned.

Now as to morality...Disregarding Jesus, if you have an actual experience of God, meaning not just thinking about certain ideas about god from whatever source (ideas about God being limited by their inherent one-sidedness); you will find that morality is not needed. By that, I mean that because of this experience of God, you know more or less what is good based on that experience.

2007-04-27 17:32:25 · answer #2 · answered by hrld_sleeper 5 · 1 1

well jesus did exsist but as to whether or not the whole religion thing happened or not i dont think so but there is strong evidence or a man named jesus who.... did somethings in reality and died on a cross but i dont believe the myth parts thats how things get tricky and half truths are the best types of myths because part of the story is varifiable
christian jewish morals are good morals even if they are based in fiction and not reality not necessarily all of them but alot of them are common priciples of living in a saine society
ephilosophy is so direct with what we should or shouldnt do although i have picked up a few pointers from it ; look into philosophy an modern thinking

2007-04-27 16:07:21 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

sorry to spoil your day but there are many written records of jesus existing. For example, people such as Pliny the Younger, Josephus, and others all wrote either knowing or under the assumption that Jesus existed. And no, they were not all Jewish. Pliny the Younger was Actually a ROMAN governor who was compeltely against the Jews....yea he persecuted them....

2007-04-27 16:03:43 · answer #4 · answered by Joe M 2 · 2 1

that theory has been proven wrong. Jesus was real. Modern thought is ridiculous. I think it takes a lot more faith to believe in things like evolution rather than creation. The Big Bang Theory? Thats kind of stupid. everything as we know it couldnt have been made from hydrogen and star dust..i cracked up when an evolutionist told me that. People that actually follow Bible morals turn out to be a lot better than people who dont. I know from experience with many different people.

2007-04-27 16:02:20 · answer #5 · answered by bballsistaKT 3 · 2 2

You can read anything you desire into old world or ancient
history...historians are notorious for missing points and
confusing their facts.

I would only hope I had something I could say to make you
see things differently....but I don't and I'm sure you wouldn't
want to hear it anyway. However, I hope the very best for
you and that one day before it is too late, you will have a
chance to open your eyes to the Way and the Light.

God loves you and so do we. Know this!

2007-04-27 16:28:04 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

Your premise is wrong so your whole thesis is wrong. Jesus was a historical figure. Here's proof that he was.

The proof of the historical existence of Jesus and the authenticity of the founding of his church is a good starting point for a non-believer. Denials of the historical existence of Jesus have frequently been attempted.

NON-CHRISTIAN sources attest to the historical existence of Jesus. The statements of Tacitus around 117 (Annales XV,44), of Pliny the Younger around 112/113 (letter to the emperor Trajan), and of Suetonius around 120 (Vita Claudis, ch. 25) are reliable and historically conclusive and we may admit them as trustworthy evidence. We also possess statements by the Jewish writer

Josephus Flavius from around 93/94 which permit us to accept his knowledge of the historical personality of Jesus.

As far as I am concerned, the best proof that Jesus is for real is the fact that he answers my prayers. I am not trying to pull your leg, it is true. He has also revealed himself in countless ways to me and other believers so he is truly risen.
Peace and every blessing!

2007-04-27 16:05:14 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 3 1

I thought it went more like, Jesus existed, but there were like a buttload of "messiahs" around at the time, it was sort of a fad. He was just lucky enough to stick around for 2000 years.

2007-04-27 16:00:02 · answer #8 · answered by PopeJaimie 4 · 1 1

Huh?

Your information is like a messy room with everything here and there and upside down. I could write a paragraph or two, but I'm still overwhelmed by the mess. I'll leave it for some else to put it in order.

2007-04-27 16:24:23 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

I suppose you could invent any modern thought you want. You can be a philospher or be a Taoist or ???

If Jesus doesn't exist for you, then what do you want people to do?

What you believe is completely and entirely up to you.

2007-04-27 16:03:32 · answer #10 · answered by ? 6 · 2 0

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