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when u go to heaven. I don't mean to be evil, but u should search for the truth.1 Corinthians 7:29...But this I say brethren, the time is short: it remaineth, that they that have wifes be as though they had none. U probovely don't have any children in heaven ethier. U should have LISTENED to Gods teaching's on the flesh.

2007-04-27 11:32:16 · 10 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

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The Christian religion is based on Plagiarism
"We should always be disposed to believe that which appears to us to be white is really black, if the hierarchy of the church so decides."
- St. Ignatius Loyola
A fair number of people are aware of the pagan origins of many Christian rituals. A couple of the better known ones are a celebration around the winter solstice that involves symbols of life (evergreens in the dead of winter), and a celebration around the spring equinox that involves fertility symbols (rabbits, eggs).

So, surely, if I was talking about a God in the middle east that was born of a virgin birth on December 25th, was visited by shepherds and magi, traveled the countryside, performed miracles including casting out devils, healing the lame and restoring sight to the blind, had a group of twelve disciples, was known as the "Light of the World," of whom it was said that if you drink of his blood you will have eternal salvation, who was persecuted, had a last supper, was killed, buried in a rock tomb, rose from the dead around the spring equinox, was worshipped by the Roman Empire and whose worship spread far around the world, whose followers worshipped on Sunday, believed in baptism and were led by a pope who ruled from Vatican hill and celebrated a sacrament of bread and wine with candles, incense and holy water, I suspect you'd know who exactly who I was talking about. Yes, I'm talking about Mithra.

Mithra (or Mithras) was first worshipped as a minor God in Persia as long ago as 2000 BCE, and later as a God who lived in human form from 272 to 208 BCE. Mithra was the God of the Roman Empire for hundreds of years, and it was not until 358 CE that followers of Mithra began to be persecuted under the new state religion, Christianity. Here's another story:

"In the first century of the Common Era, there appeared at the end of the Mediterranean a remarkable religious leader who taught the worship of one true God and declared that religion meant not the sacrifice of beasts but the practice of charity and piety and the shunning of hatred and enmity. He was said to have worked miracles of goodness, casting out demons, healing the sick, raising the dead. His exemplary life led some of his followers to claim he was a son of God, though he called himself the son of a man. Accused of sedition against Rome, he was arrested. After his death, his disciples claimed he had risen from the dead, appeared to them alive, and then ascended to heaven."
Again, I suspect you know who I'm talking about - that's right, Apollonius, who died around 98 CE. The quote is from Gospel Fictions by Randel Helms.
There are similarities with many other previous and concurrent Gods as well. A couple of other names that might be familiar include Dionysus, Osiris, and Krishna, but there are many more. Jesus and these other Gods often fall under a broad category author Robert Price calls a "mythic hero archetype," where "a divine hero's birth is supernaturally predicted and conceived, the infant hero escapes attempts to kill him, demonstrates his precocious wisdom already as a child, receives a divine commission, defeats demons, wins acclaim, is hailed as king, then betrayed, losing popular favor, executed, often on a hilltop, and is vindicated and taken up to heaven."

The notion of virgin birth, god incarnated into human form, heaven, hell, baptism, eucharist, eternal life, the soul, salvation, one god, worship of sun-gods on Sun-day, you name it, it's all been done before. Sorry to say, there is not much that is new or unique about Jesus. Like other successful religions, Christianity gained the authorization of a powerful state and was institutionalized.

There is no Historical Evidence for Jesus
"Extraordinary claims demand extraordinary evidence."
- attributed to Carl Sagan
Ultimately there is no solid evidence for the existence of Jesus. No one who was alive at that time wrote of him. Jesus starts showing up one or two centuries later in Christian literature, as the movement builds. Even Paul, who was the main promoter of Christianity, seems curiously unaware of the miracles Jesus supposedly performed or even of the basic events of Jesus' life. As a salesman, these would have made some great selling points, but he doesn't seem to know about them. The gospels tell us that Jesus was widely known among the "multitudes" from numerous cities and that even high ranking officials like Herod and Pilate supposedly knew of him, yet somehow the historians of the day were unaware of his existence.

The gospels themselves do not seem to be eyewitness accounts. The gospel of Luke actually admits this up front. They were written in the third person (hearsay) at least 40 years after the supposed events. John may have been written as late as 90 years after the "fact." And they come to us through the hands of Christian scribes who were well known (even Christian scholars admit this) to commit fraud to further their cause.

There are a massive number of Internal Contradictions in the Bible
"There are some people that if they don't know, you can't tell 'em."
- Louis Armstrong
Indeed, there are so many contradictions, both factual (i.e. historical, archaelogical, etc.) and ideological, that entire books have been written to catalog them, for example Ken's Guide to the Bible or the Born Again Skeptic's Guide to the Bible, and many others. One online source is the Skeptics Annotated Bible.

My single favorite ideological contradiction comes from Second Kings, chapters 9 and 10, the story of Jehu. There is much in the way of shooting people in the back, tricking them, ambushing them, widespread murder in general, all condoned by God, however the worst of it is the cutting off the heads of 70 children. After all this God says "because you have done well in carrying out what is right in my eyes ... your sons ... shall sit on the throne of Israel." In other words, good work, Jehu. And that fits in with "thou shall not kill" exactly how? There are many contradictions that can be waved away by believers with a clever interpretation. I simply don't see how you explain away a particularly brutal mass slaughter of innocent children.

The Bible Contradicts Science
"Your Highness, I have no need of this hypothesis."
- Pierre Laplace, to Napoleon, on why his works on celestial mechanics make no mention of God
The bible doesn't come right out and state its position (that would be too easy), but it strongly implies (exactly as you might expect, given what humans knew about the earth at that time) things like a flat earth, the earth as the center of the universe (finally recanted by the Vatican in 1835), and life just popping into existence fully formed. These are all things that we know aren't true. We know the earth is spheroid, that the earth revolves around the sun, that our entire solar system is nothing more than a tiny speck off to one side of an unimaginably vast universe, and that over a period of a few billion years we descended from single celled organisms that themselves are comprised not of some sort of magical substance, but of the simple elements and proteins we find everywhere. The way I look at it, by definition God would have to have known these things. It would have been so very, very easy for God to clue us in on these things, and then as we progressed in science, we would have found that God's word predicted our own discoveries. Even some simple instructions about washing and sewage disposal would have saved millions of lives. Oh well, maybe next time.

Religion Evolved from more Primitive Beliefs
"If you would be a real seeker after truth, it is necessary that at least once in your life you doubt, as far as possible, all things."
- Rene Descartes, Principles of Philosophy
Beliefs are like seeds - if they fall on fertile ground, they thrive and spread. They mutate. The most successful beliefs live, the less successful die off, just like urban legends today. Through this process the religion meme developed into what it is today. Starting with primitive animism and ancestor worship, it told people what they wanted to hear, it solved intractable problems, and it was passed on from one generation to the next.

2007-04-27 11:35:50 · answer #1 · answered by crazycelt@sbcglobal.net 2 · 1 5

What a perverted Christian you are!!

Not a christian in fact but a fundamentalists turning Christianity from a religion to an ideology!!!

You are probably to uneducated and ignorant to know the difference so look it up!!!

Why do so many idiots on here do so much damage to Christianity through their egotistical ignorance?!!!!!

2007-04-27 18:37:34 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Eternal families are reserved for the most faithful of Christ's followers. All others will be single, ministering angels.

2007-04-27 18:38:13 · answer #3 · answered by rac 7 · 0 0

Heaven sounds like a real fun place.

2007-04-27 18:36:42 · answer #4 · answered by Uncle Meat 5 · 0 0

Live your life to Jehovah but your responsibility's lie with with your family obligations. You can not serve Jehovah whole souled and neglect your family.

2007-04-27 18:37:38 · answer #5 · answered by Here I Am 7 · 0 0

Yeah, that's pretty creepy. Glad I dont' believe in that.

2007-04-27 18:37:55 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Hee hee hee...

You're funny.

That's nonsense, dear. When you die, you are dead. My beloved and I will be in the same place.

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2007-04-27 18:35:58 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

You need to rephrase your question, it is not clear..

2007-04-27 18:40:59 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

perhaps it's just one great big mystical orgy up there.

2007-04-27 18:36:59 · answer #9 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

what are you on about

2007-04-27 18:35:58 · answer #10 · answered by buggerov 4 · 0 0

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