What stopped the Council of Nicaea to put whatever they wanted into the bible.?

Question

this is not an attack at christanity just a question.

What stopped the Council of Nicaea from putting what ever they wanted the people to hear and since so many people base their belief in the bible isnt it kind messed up??

Answer 1

Nothing stopped the Council of Nicaea from making the Bible in their own image of Christianity and Christ - or any other ecumenical council.

All of the included books of the Bible were selected by Ecumenical Councils of the Church to uphold their conception of Christ and Christianity - every one of the books of the Bible was selected by groups of Men - not by God: see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ecumenical_council

The testaments of Christ that were rejected for inclusion in the Bible were collected, instead, in the Apocrypha
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_apocrypha .

For example, the Divinity of Christ (Christ as God) was not an agreed feature of Christianity until the first Council of Nicaea, three centuries after his death; many early Christians did not believe that Jesus was God, but that he was a man. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Early_Christianity .The composition of the modern-day Bible was largely formed around the Nicaean Creed, expressing an agreement of the Church that Jesus was, in fact, godly. Scriptures that did not agree with the divinity of Christ were expressly left out of the Bible, well before any translation was made into English.

There were many other ecumenical councils, which continued to interpret Christianity into the form(s) we now associate with the modern church; but it is worth noting that all of these have been the interpretations of Man, and have been modified along politican and sectarian lines for centuries.

Just five days ago, the Pope reversed centuries of thinking about "Limbo," a state of eternal separation from God, which has, until now, been regarded as the destination for the souls of unbaptised infants, due to their being born into Original Sin. The Pope's announcement, five days ago, was to the effect that there were grounds for believing the unbaptised infants actually go to heaven. http://www.usatoday.com/news/religion/2007-04-20-popelimbo_N.htm I am certain that the Pope's decision does not change whatever God's intention is for unbaptised infants. Yet the Church continues to teach their interpretation of God's will, whether or not it is, in fact, the correct one.

Answer 2

The books chosen basically met three tests: 1) written by an apostle or a close associate, 2) consistent with the OT and the teachings of Jesus, and 3) historically accurate.

How did they know? The didn't just discover them then. Read up on the early church fathers. A few examples: Polycarp quoted from all four Gospels and most of the letters by 110. Ignacius - from the Gospels and all but 3 letters by about 107. Clement of Rome had quoted Matthew, Mark, Luke, and a bunch of letters by the mid 90's. By the time of Nicea - 325AD - NT writings are cited by secondary sources something like 32,000 times.

Yes, some were disputed. Four I think. James, 2 Peter, 3 John, and I can't find a reference to the fourth.

And remember, before 312, being a Christian was pretty hazardous to your health. I'm afraid I find chalking the Bible up to some sort of conspiracy a lot harder to believe.

Answer 3

The Council of Nicea did not have anything to do with what was put in the Bible. The Council was called over the dispute about Arianism (The teaching that Jesus was a created being).

The church in that era already considered most of the New Testament books to be authoritative. Sixty years after Nicea, they met at Carthage to discuss the Canon of Scripture. NO ONE disputed the authenticity of the 4 Gospels (Matthew, Mark, Luke and John). The books that didn't make it all problems meeting the standard because they had unknown or dubious authorship, their teaching was in contradiction to known and accepted Scripture or they were written many years after the Apostles had all died.

If you are going to make claims about what certain Church Councils did or did not do, you better have your history straight. Quit relying on the fiction of the DaVinci Code and others like it, otherwise no one will believe you are credible when you ask such questions.

Answer 4

the Trinity is a man-made doctrine that was drawn up several hundred years after Jesus. In this time period different interpretations of the Bible were causing serious debates among Christians. The various interpretations were, undoubtedly, due to human perversion of the original scriptures, poor preservation, and/or shoddy translations. One of the main things being questioned was the nature of God and Jesus. Was Jesus actually God, the son of God, or just a messenger? The Council of Nicea was formed in an attempt to settle this dispute, and the Nicea Creed (the Trinitarian doctrine) was subsequently hammered out.

Answer 5

If you have faith and you believe in the Church, then you have to believe that the Holy Spirit guided the Council to include the books that they did.

Pragmatically, the Council voted upon which books were to be canonized. A couple of them (like the Epistles of Peter) barely made it in.

Answer 6

Nothing.

Actually, the council excluded some pretty powerful texts in creating the New Test (well, they didn't create the whole thing but for their part).

Many of the Gnostic Gospels (Gospels of Mary, Phillip, Thomas, Judas, etc) imply a more buddhist approach to Christianity. One w/o emphasis on churches or rules, but rather an inner relationship w/ God and Jesus.

Of course, that does very little good for those who are creating a church, which at the time was used to rule by.

Answer 7

yes as it guided them to become the most murderous organization in the history of the planet who made jesus devine to dissuade people from following his path. jesus didn't die so you could live like an a$$hole as long as you 'raise your right hand' and say you truly believe...jesus died because he scared the pluck out of the religlous leaders of his time and place. religion has always been the tyrant's method for controlling his biggest fear; the masses. afterall there is a reason that kings had to ask rome fo permission to get divorced, and it has nothing to do with salvation. .

Answer 8

Are you speaking of Christian Orthodoxy when you are referring to the Council of Nicaea?

Answer 9

They were not stopped.

They were guided by God:

2 Timothy 3:16-17
16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
17 That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

Revelation 22:18-21
18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
20 He which testifieth these things saith, Surely I come quickly. Amen. Even so, come, Lord Jesus.
21 The grace of our Lord Jesus Christ be with you all. Amen.

Soli Deo Gloria

Answer 10

They DID put in whatever they wanted--had a bit of trouble with the vote for the book of Revelation--but eventually lobbied it in-despite the fact they had no idea who wrote it-& it diametrically opposed Christs teachings.