Why do many disfellowshipped Jehovah's Witnesses not clean up their act and repent instead of spreading lies?

Question

I have noticed that many disfellowshipped Jehovah's Witnesses (exes now) get on these forums or just anywhere in the world really to spread lies and hate about the the organization. After all they were disfellowshipped because they would not head the counsel of the elders and stop practicing the unclean thing whether it be fornication, gambling, drunkeness, stealing, etc. Wouldn't it behoove them to clean themselves up, repent and show Jehovah that they have repented and are worthy of his wonderful worldwide clean organization once again; thus worthy of his kingdom after Armageddon?--- a kingdom free of crime, illness, debauchery, and death?

Observing many of the answers below, there are many who do not comprehend accurate knowledge about Jehovah God, nor do they understand that it is necessary to remove the unclean thing that could potentially "dirty up" the flocks in the congregation. It is a good thing to remove what is unclean, esp. when that person has been warned multiple times about their unclean behavior but refused to heed counsel. It is necessary to remove the unclean thing until that one exercises repentence and discontinues their path of unrighteousness. Then when that one is made clean again, they are then reinstated.

This is wise and this is God's way. Any other way just doesn't make any sense. Why keep letting what is unclean and wicked pollute and taint the congregation and organization? It makes sense to act on that.

Answer 1

Kim, They find it easier to stand back and blame someone else. Then they start drifting away....wave by wave until they are in the dark with no way back.
The longer they stay away the harder it is to say they were wrong and point out others mistakes so they can justify why they stay away.
They may say the congregation is evil or that the elders are unfair.
But in reality Kim, it is the only place of concealment from the world. It is the only place you can go for the truth and for salvation.

The scriptures tell us to run to Jehovah if we want to be saved.
If we talk against the congregation of God we talk against God Himself.
Let the reader use discernment.

Answer 2

That's a broad question with individual answers, but a common problem may be ego or pride. Some people find it hard to admit they are wrong, even if the Bible says so.

That's why the Bible counsels humility for Christians, and the acceptance of discipline with joy, knowing that doing so can restore a person's relationship with God.

In the Bible, there is the case of the man in the Corinthian congregation who was disfellowshipped, but who repented and was reinstated and welcomed back with love.

That is the example that any disfellowshipped person could follow. Some choose, instead, to attack their former associates. That is not the Christian attitude, nor the proper Christian course of action.

But "everyone will have to give an account for himself to God." (Romans 14:12)

And, "God is not mocked." We reap what we sow. (Galatians 6:7)

Answer 3

Although I may agree with you, I don't think this is the type of question a Witness would want to post on this forum.

You are opening up Pandora's Box, in a manner of speaking.

And we don't want to allow room for people to reproach Jehovah because of something we may have said/done.

You should probably delete this question before you get flooded with venemous answers.

PS: Esther, I guess you've never read the New Testament- Paul spoke specifically about a man who was "disfellowshipped" from the congregation for immorality, but was then welcomed back with love once he was genuinely repentant.

Or did you just conveniently overlook that part?

Answer 4

1. Not all do

2. You're assuming that a person claiming they were disfellowshipped were a witness in the first. Notice how they never mention when and from what congregation they were disfellowshipped from. unlike churches, you can't just drive by a Kingdom Hall to see a title of that particular congregation. Especially when there are usually three to a Hall.


I've been approached many times over the last 25 years by people wanting me to join their anti-witness group. They offer to script what I would say because they know that people will believe it without checking for themselves.

Answer 5

Yes - many unclean things must be put away.
And not allowed to bring influence to and on God's people.

This is not about how the JWs bring correction.

If a person brings shame to the people it is for the people to decide with the help of God - his direction and wisdom.

I do not think it is wrong to put "a person out from among you" that chooses to harm themselves and the people about them.
This is not the error.

The error is doctrinal.

JWs in different communities act to their own in different ways. I have seen love and caring and checking if a person has had enough of the world over a period of time and I have seen complete ostracizing of a person in a different community for a simple error.

There is more fear and judgement in JWs than elsewhere.
There is no room for questioning once an answer has been given.

God is not about fear and judgment God is about love.

Honesty to self and God about this not to elders and overseers.

A closed mind does not learn but keeps you imprisoned by bars of darkness. Shackled and downtrodden.

When you stand before the throne you will have to answer for yourself.

Are you part of the deception. Do you really know?

See there was a question once that went like this: (paraphrase) Your eyes will be opened and you will not die.

The JWs offer knowledge of the bible and eternal life in the flesh. This is the same trick the started it all.

The doctrine degrades from there.

A little truth is all it takes to decieve.

But
It is between you and God
not an elder or overseer and God
it is between you and God.

Answer 6

Just because it is the truth doesn't mean everyone wants it. Living by Jehovah's principles means adjusting a persons way of life. Very different from the world's viewpoint.

Knowing the difference in your head doesn't mean it will reach your heart where changes occur.

Answer 7

Because a good number of those experiences are true. Why should I assume they lie?

My personal experience goes, thus:

My Mother married into the sect. Her husband was disfellowshipped (a charge he denies, so he won't repent of something he didn't do, but I can't speak on it; I didn't know him then), but he still firmly believed it and made it a criteria of marriage. I refused to enter it, but my two youngest siblings did. She was a faithful follower, and this led us into conflict (albeit respectful; we always went out to eat or something afterwards). I simply believed what they were teaching was false, and their documentation and reasoning unsound (I was usually charitable; I think the Watchtower is an outright liar), and I can be far, far from diplomatic about my opinions.

Well, the Watchtower told her I was "Satanic" and deceiving her. They tried to forbid her from talking to me. They told her the same thing about my grandparents on her side, because they don't believe in any church. They told my sister the same thing, and told her, in addition, to give up a friend who had fallen out of favor with them (she had stopped attending the Kingdom Hall). Well, this caused my Mother to break away immediately; she knew I wasn't "Satanic" and out to deceive her, and she would never disavow her family. My sister did the same, and when she left, they said things I don't know to her (she's never told me), but she won't look at religion the same way anymore. She doesn't believe in anything really anymore beyond just "God."

In my life I have seen the organization only damage lives and try to split families. Just because you don't like what a person says on leaving doesn't mean it isn't true (there are unfortunate stories about my own faith, and I'm not going to assume people are lying just because they are inconvenient). The truth is, the Watchtower has done a lot of wrong and evil. These people aren't all liars, and the elders are often as screwed up as the people they counsel. It's the hard truth, but it is the truth.

Most likely, all your answers will be like this, or they will be very indignant. Those who left will probably not all take well to being called liars. I tried to be charitable, but they may not be. God knows, they have a right to be bitter.

Answer 8

I have seen more JW (disfellowshipped) defending the principle of JW. beliefs. There will always be some detractors. I differ with the belief system of the JW. I do admire their evangelistic zeal.

Answer 9

It's sad, but they are a slave to sin as we all are, and though they once realized these wonderful things, they begin to hate it. I read something that specifically answered this question in some publication, maybe the Watchtower, but cant remember it right now.

Answer 10

I'm not nor have I ever been a Witness. I've known about five in my life, and they're some of the sweetest people I've met.

Some people are just rude.