I use this scripture all the time to show that Peter was married.
That's why it's very important to remember the rule do not go beyond the things that are written in the scriptures.
Traditions of men are bad also. Jesus said you make the word of God invalid by your traditions.
Why should we believe something that's not in the scriptures?
The Bible says it's OK to get married. You can still be a overseer if you get married.
2007-04-26 08:35:25
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answered by Jason W 4
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I am not sure that I understand your question but it is obviously posed out of ignorance or misunderstanding of the Latin Rite discipline of celibacy. There actually was no problem with St. Peter being married nor was there a problem with Jesus and St. Paul being celibate. Celibate priests and bishops has always been an honored discipline for those in the clergy but it has not always been a discipline that was required of all clergy. Up until the eleventh century priests were not disciplined to be celibate and it was instituted at that time to stop abuses such as nepotism where bishops passed on their bishopric to their sons among other problems. St. Paul taught that being single and celibate was a preferred discipline for clergy and the example of Jesus affirms that belief in the early Church.
The short answer is that St. Peter being married or not has nothing to do with whether he was pope or not.
In Christ
Fr. Joseph
Edit:
For one reading the fanciful history that follows this post allow me to say that I am a former professor of Early Church history at a major seminary and the following post has very little basis for the conclusions reached.
If what the poster said was true, keep in mind that such a position makes Jesus a liar. The Church did NOT fall into apostasy and never will because Christ said that the Church is the "bulwark and ground of the truth" and also that the "gates of hell will not prevail against the Church."
Let there be no mistake, Jesus created a Church on a firm, enduring foundation with Himself as the cornerstone and the 12 disciples as the foundation which has been built on even today by their successors. The Church will endure, exactly as Christ promised till the "end of the age". At the Parousia, the Church created by Christ will still remain as the Bible and all of Sacred Tradition attest.
2007-04-26 08:47:21
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answered by cristoiglesia 7
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Good question.
You can always tell when you have asked a question, not easily explained by the Paul of Tarsus Gospels, compared to the true teachings of the Nazarenes- when its takes, at least half a dozen paragraphs for Catholic apologists, spin doctors and PR merchants to explain it.
I think what is even more interesting besides Peter (a bonifide zealot, therefore guerilla war leader) is what he was doing leading the revolt against the Sadducees and Paul of Tarsus's christians from 62 CE to 68/69CE?
See: Josephus background on Jewish Wars-
http://one-faith-of-god.org/new_testament/apocrypha/josephus_wars/josephus_wars_0020.htm
What a brilliant idea by the Roman Christians to claim Peter was first Pope. For not only did they solve this troubling piece of history, they also managed to hide the fact that in 150 CE for fifty years the Valentinus School of Gnostic/Nazarene wisdom operated in Rome and attracted thousands of students (including several Emperors) to the true teachings of Jesus and the apostles- while the death sentence for being Christian was still in force!
2007-04-26 19:45:21
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answered by Anonymous
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Marriage wasn't outlawed in the clergy until much later, around the year 700 AD, and then was inconsistent for many centuries. Remember that Peter was married before many of Christ's statements that caused people to ban marriage in the church elite, so he had a good excuse. Since Peter was named directly by Jesus to head the movement, it can be assumed to have an official pardon. When you are the first, you really aren't sure about what follows.
2007-04-26 08:28:57
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answered by Anonymous
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They will not deny that Peter was in fact married. They will say that the order of the Pope should not be married. They will say that Peter established the church in Rome, aka being the Pope. Which based on the evidence we have, it is unlikely that Peter started the Church in Rome.
2007-04-26 08:29:42
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answered by Anonymous
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actual there have been approximately 39 married popes. Celibacy for the priesthood is a prepare not a doctrine/coaching of the church. in reality there are married Catholic clergymen - this is a lot greater probably in jap ceremony Catholic church homes, in spite of the incontrovertible fact that it does ensue in Latin/Roman ceremony church homes. clergymen are not forbidden from getting married - they % to stay celibate. Jesus praises celibacy in Matthew 19:11-12. it somewhat is a cutting-edge from God. The Church at present prefers to have a celibate priesthood as a results of fact it somewhat is a meditated photograph of Christ and His celibacy and this is respectful to the two the sacrament of Holy Orders and the sacrament of Marriage. For Catholics, starting to be a clergyman is greater desirable than a job/profession/vocation - it somewhat is a sacrament (Holy Orders). which skill it somewhat is a life long dedication to God and His church (like marriage is a life-long dedication in the Catholic Church). One life-long dedication is complicated adequate to maintain - 2 may be greater complicated. we are able to verify that with the aid of observing Protestant clergy who do marry the place the divorce fee is the comparable as a results of fact the final established (a pair of million/2) plus 2/3 go away the ministry till now they retire.
2016-12-10 12:13:37
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answered by ? 4
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He found a woman that he loved and got married, same as today.
FYI, the clergy not being allowed to marry didn't come up until around AD 1100 or so (perhaps a little later - I don't have easy access to my research on this at the moment)
2007-04-26 08:31:00
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answered by Anonymous
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The celibate clergy did not come into full bloom until about 1000 A.D. There were many married priests, bishops, and popes before this time.
Priests, religious brothers and religious sisters (nuns) as part of their vocation choose not to marry following:
+ The practice recommended in the Bible
+ The example of Jesus Christ, John the Baptist, and the Apostle Paul.
+++ Scripture +++
+ In Matthew 19:12, Jesus says, "Some are incapable of marriage because they were born so; some, because they were made so by others; some, because they have renounced marriage for the sake of the kingdom of heaven. Whoever can accept this ought to accept it."
Jesus says celibacy is a gift from God and whoever can bear it should bear it. Jesus praises and recommends celibacy for full time ministers in the Church. Because celibacy is a gift from God, those who criticize the Church's practice of celibacy are criticizing God and this wonderful gift He bestows on His chosen ones.
+ In Matthew 19:29, Jesus says, "And everyone who has given up houses or brothers or sisters or father or mother or children or lands for the sake of my name will receive a hundred times more, and will inherit eternal life."
Whoever gives up children for the sake of His name will receive a hundred times more and will inherit eternal life. Jesus praises celibacy when it is done for the sake of His kingdom.
+ Matthew 22:30 - Jesus explains, "At the resurrection they neither marry nor are given in marriage but are like the angels in heaven."
In heaven there are no marriages. To bring about Jesus' kingdom on earth, priests live the heavenly consecration to God by not taking a wife in marriage. This way, priests are able to focus exclusively on the spiritual family, and not have any additional pressures of the biological family (which is for the vocation of marriage). This also makes it easier for priests to be transferred to different parishes where they are most needed without having to worry about the impact of their transfer on wife and children.
+ In 1 Corinthians 7:1, Paul writes, "It is a good thing for a man not to touch a woman."
This is the choice that the Catholic priests of the Roman rite freely make.
+ Then in 1 Corinthians 7:7, Paul says, "Indeed, I wish everyone to be as I am."
Paul acknowledges that celibacy is a gift from God and wishes that all were celibate like he is.
+ In 1 Corinthians 7:27, Paul writes, "Are you free of a wife? Then do not look for a wife."
Paul teaches men that they should not seek marriage. In Paul’s opinion, marriage introduces worldly temptations that can interfere with one’s relationship with God, specifically regarding those who will become full time ministers in the Church.
+ In 1 Corinthians 7:32-33, Paul teaches, "I should like you to be free of anxieties. An unmarried man is anxious about the things of the Lord, how he may please the Lord. But a married man is anxious about the things of the world, how he may please his wife." And in verse 38, "So then, the one who marries his virgin does well; the one who does not marry her will do better."
Paul recommends celibacy for full time ministers in the Church so that they are able to focus entirely upon God and building up His kingdom. He “who refrains from marriage will do better.”
See also
1 Timothy 5:9-12
2 Timothy 2:3-4
Revevation 14:4
Isaiah 56:3-7
Jeremiah 16:1-4
+++ Scriptural Examples +++
Biblical role models of a celibate clergy came from John the Baptist, Jesus, and the Apostle Paul.
John the Baptist and Jesus are both believed to have been celibate for their entire lives. Some scholars believe that the example of the Essenes influenced either or both Jesus and John the Baptist in their celibacy.
WWJD? What would Jesus do? Jesus did not marry.
The Apostle Paul is explicit about his celibacy (see 1 Cor. 7). There is also evidence in the gospel of Matthew for the practice of celibacy among at least some early Christians, in the famous passage about becoming “eunuchs for the sake of the kingdom of heaven” (Matt. 19:12).
The concept took many twists and turns over the years and will probably take a few more before Christ returns in glory.
A priest is "married" to the Church. Some people think that a priest who takes his duties seriously cannot take proper care of a wife and family. "A man cannot serve two masters."
With love in Christ.
2007-04-26 18:09:32
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answered by imacatholic2 7
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And where in the Bible does it say Peter was the first pope?
Nowhere.
2007-04-26 08:29:28
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answered by ♥LadyC♥ 6
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clergymen were allowed to marry. some marry some did not. but after many years later, the Church then banned marriage to clergymen so as to make the time of clergymen whole for God.
2007-04-26 23:48:24
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answered by hamster-de-combat 2
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