Recognizing God through science...?

Question

In the past everything was explained by a God, or supernatural forces. Eventually science progressed to the point where we could say things like (for example) "Oh, lightning? No, that's not a god, that's just electricity." etc. Suddenly it was easily explainable. But couldn't the energies that influence the weather (i.e. heat) be considered a god since it's the governing force of said phenomenon? I guess my main point would be: If/when science progresses to the point where we can try and comprehend God would we still recognize him/her/it as God?

Being a pagan and believeing in many god-like beings as well as a one true God my beliefs can get rather complicated (especially on this issue), so please specify your religion so that I know what perspective you're looking at it from.

Once again, the main question here is: If/when science progresses to the point where we can try and comprehend God would we still recognize him/her/it as God?

Please note this is a hypothetical question.

And if science disproves god, why do most scientists believe in god? Why believe only in science, but not in what the scientists believe?

Yes, my question assumes that God exists, without this presupposition the question doesn't make sense anymore!

Providing a source for my statement that most scientists believe in a God: http://www.livescience.com/othernews/050811_scientists_god.html

According to this, 2/3 of scientists believe in a God, this varies based on what they study/practice.

Answer 1

You have to remember that God created the universe and is responsible for it following all the so called scientific laws. God has many characteristics including light, logic, wisdom, order. It is apparent that God does not do anything illogical, even if we can not completely understand it. What is science to God might be magic to us because of our lack of understanding. One thing Jesus said is that the miracles he does, we shall do greater miracles. Jesus healed many sick people, and perhaps through science God has allowed us to heal many more sick people. God can not be a scientist, because he already knows it all, but he is an inventor, an creator, and he is the greatest engineer of love. So yes, we will be able to recognize God.

Answer 2

science proves in every way the existence of God. Im i christian because i found this very evidence. Many people have many issues with the bible. One such problem is that people were said to live for 800 years. Science has proved this as fact. When the earth was young, the atmosphere was vastly different. There were no clouds, and the oceans were smaller. Most of the water on the earth was in the atmoshere itself. It formed a canopy of water. Scientists thus named this the water canopy. This canopy formed a hyperberic chamber over the earth. If you research hyperberic chambers, you will find out about their healing properties. This is because the environment becomes super oxigenated. As a result, people lived much longer. This also explains the story of the flood. The bible says there had never been rain before then. This is true because the water was all contained high in the atmosphere. When the water canopy fell, it flooded the entire earth. This research was done by a group of scientists using non-controversial methods. This only a single scientific fact to prove the bible is true. But since ive been typing awhile, ill end there. If you want to know more just message me and ill give you some more facts. I wont tell you anything that isnt fact, if its even debatable whether its true or not, i wont mention it. If you really do want to know the truth, most people ask these questions to make lukewarm fake christians look bad, then look deeper into these facts. You can go to www.creationscience.com if you dont feel like messaging me. good luck

Answer 3

There will never be a point when we can comprehend God. He is far too big and powerful for our tiny minds to understand. The more we learn about our world, the more we learn how little we truly know. The greatest scientist in the world cannot explain where the material came from that exploded into the "big bang". no one can explain how we
have such precise order in our world if it theoretically came
from complete chaos (explosion). The only possible explanation is a divine creator, God. Although we may be able to explain the e lements that make up our world, we will never be able to scientifically explain what sustains our world without acknowledging that there is a creator and sustainer of life.
When I was a young child, I recognized I was a sinner and could never be good enough to earn heaven. I realized my need for a Saviour from my sins and accepted Christ's death on the cross and resurrection as the only way to be forgiven and reconciled with God. I live my life each day trying to become more like Christ through prayer and the reading of God's Word. I am a non-denominational Christian.

Answer 4

I'm technically an atheist, but feel that science does not know enough to make a decision on the existence of God yet. So I think the dis or belief in God that created our universe is totally a matter of faith (who says there is no free will?).

I think we will eventually figure this puzzle out but we may be centuries away from it.

In the mean time evolution will continue to work on the planet and humans will evolve as civilization progresses. I like the Gaia theory religious notion that we will create a planetary consciousness once we become advanced enough to have peace, security, freedom, and equality.

At that point we will have created our own God like creature called Gaia. We will certainly recognize it as a God at that point, since it will be so powerful, and will essentially create the Garden of Eden here on Earth.

So the question remains, is this Gaia creature God? I'd say NO, that it is simply a higher order consciousness that seems God like to us. The argument over whether the universe was created by a purposeful God will remain. Then it will be up to Gaia to figure out.

Answer 5

i like your example about the lightning. I am an atheist (or naturalistic pantheist.) I think there are multiple ways of describing reality. I do think that it can be just as scientifically valid to describe the energy of the lightning as a god as it is to describe it as energy. The world is full of natural wonder, and if we need to use spiritual language to capture that awe, there is nothing wrong with that. i think the problems arise when we start to think that that lightning has some supernatural divinity about it. So yes, the lightning can be legitimately called a god, as long as in using the term "god" we are careful not to imply anything like a consciousness. My position is that the world is awe-inspiring and our religious and spiritual feelings should be directed toward it instead of some separate reality which likely does not exist.

So I think that science already has told us a lot about god, since god and the universe are the same thing. But if the language of science is disenchanting, then feel free to talk about the world in spiritual, religious, or mystical language. Just be careful that you do not slip out of a religious and in to a literal state of mind which devalues those feelings of spirituality and awe by trying to make them understandable in familiar terms. Trying to make the spiritually metaphorical literally true devalues the awe of those feelings.

As for your statistic that most scientists believe in god, you should offer a source. And which god is it? A lot of scientists (einstein being probably the most famous) take a pantheistic view of god, not a christian view.

Answer 6

In the past, I believe that humans made up gods to explain the natural events around them which were not understood. After scientists examined and learned the source of these physical events, we can accept those findings.

Science is still in the process of learning. However, scientific research can never prove or disprove spiritual evidence.

The reason that I can comprehend God is, by the wisdom of His Word. In depth study and prayer causes one to know and recognize a personal Deity which can not be obtained by knowledge alone.

I am a Christian and I have accepted Jesus Christ as my Lord and Savior. I have found that when one becomes open to this spiritual wisdom and allows God's Word to show them truth, then and only then, can one accept Him as their own personal Creator, Lord, Savior, Helper, and Friend.

Answer 7

I am a Catholic.

100 years ago this year, Albert Einstein published three papers that rocked the world. These papers proved the existence of the atom, introduced the theory of relativity, and described quantum mechanics.

Pretty good debut for a 26-year-old scientist, huh?

His equations for relativity indicated that the universe was expanding. This bothered him, because if it was expanding, it must have had a beginning and a beginner. Since neither of these appealed to him, Einstein introduced a 'fudge factor' that ensured a 'steady state' universe, one that had no beginning or end.

But in 1929, Edwin Hubble showed that the furthest galaxies were fleeing away from each other, just as the Big Bang model predicted. So in 1931, Einstein embraced what would later be known as the Big Bang theory, saying, "This is the most beautiful and satisfactory explanation of creation to which I have ever listened." He referred to the 'fudge factor' to achieve a steady-state universe as the biggest blunder of his career.
Einstein's theories have been thoroughly proved and verified by experiments and measurements, but there's an even more important implication of Einstein's discovery. Not only does the universe have a beginning, but also time itself, our own dimension of cause and effect, began with the Big Bang.

That's right -- time itself does not exist before then. The very line of time begins with that creation event. Matter, energy, time and space were created in an instant by intelligence outside of space and time.

About this intelligence, Albert Einstein wrote in his book "The World As I See It" that the harmony of natural law "Reveals an intelligence of such superiority that, compared with it, all the systematic thinking and acting of human beings is an utterly insignificant reflection."

He went on to write, "Everyone who is seriously involved in the pursuit of science becomes convinced that a spirit is manifest in the laws of the Universe--a spirit vastly superior to that of man, and one in the face of which we with our modest powers must feel humble."

Pretty significant statement, wouldn't you say?
May the Lord's peace be with you!

Answer 8

My perspective: Christian

Science will never progress to the point where people can comprehend God. Humans never will...our minds can't comprehend that. Plain and simple.
I'll try to answer it more however...let's see...there will always be people with different perspectives, i.e. people who still believe in God as the almighty, people who doubt God, and people who don't believe in God at all.
I'm really not quite sure.

Answer 9

Science is simply the "how" - we get electricity because electrons move along some conductive substance. It can even tell us "why", to some extent - why certain substances are more conductive than others, for example.

But it can't tell us the deeper "why" questions - why we're here, etc.. And in no way does it prevent a deity (or deities) that either put those scientific laws in place, or work with those laws.

Answer 10

You could never ever disprove that the creature exists to everyone because people will refuse to believe insurmountable evidence because it doesn't fit with them. Besides that the way the Christian religion has been done in the past it adapts and absorbs other religious beliefs to make it their own so those people fall in line with their beliefs.

My Religion: None