Good and evil? I'll tell you what's evil, religious beliefs that have been?

Question

the root of many of the world's wars for many many years. Might be a cliche but it is TRUE. Atheism and the belief in science is not only common sense and rashional reasonable thinking, it doesn't seem to cause mass wars or the division of neighbouring countries, does it?

Augustin-I'll give you a clue. Where you see the question mark (?) at the end of my writing, work BACKWARDS from that until you get to a FULL STOP (.) Then read FORWARDS till you get back to the question mark (?)

If GOD B…_if the man made book the bible says that then IT MUST BE TRUE..

~~WiccaD-Very good point indeed. Still it takes motivation and men to press the buttons, very good point though.

Ariel Br…How utterly tedious. Try digesting the information then thinking for yourself. Mind you the bible was written by men therefore must be flawless. What harm could men do after all?

heartbea…_If you read what I said, 'many of the world's wars' NOT ALL! And Iraq was invaded because George Bush said god told him to do it-therefore I would class that as religously motivated. America's participation in Vietnam was due to their paranoia which to be fair is an obsession tantamount to religion...!

If you do good surely you are in the side of God but if you do bad things, you definitely under the influence of evil spirit.
jtm

No I do good as I know it is the correct thing to respect my fellow human beings. It comes natural for me without religion. I don;t have to look at a book to show me the way to do this.

"Sounds like you should be a member of the KKK if you aren't already a member, they tend to think the way you do"

eh? Sadly for me, without reading the bible, I see everyone as equal no matter skin colour or creed. You should try that with homosexuals or 'sinners' as you like to call them..

Answer 1

“Obey Thy Ten Commandments, Or Else”:



There are many Christians and Jews who demand that the Ten Commandments should be displayed in public institutions. In my opinion it is only fair that if the commandments are to be displayed, so should the penalties for breaking those commandments. Matter of fact they should be posted in its entirety so that society can see just what kind of crap these religions are feeding us. I also encourage those of you Judeo/Christians who visit here to print out this very list and post it where your children can see it. It’s time you explain to them what a murderous, unjust god you brainwash them into worshiping.

1st. Commandment, Exodus 20:3 “Thou shalt have no other gods before me”. Old Testament punishment - Deuteronomy 17:1-5 “And hath gone and served other gods, and worshipped them, either the sun, or moon, or any of the host of heavens, which I have not commanded. Then shalt thou bring forth that man or that woman, which have committed that wicked thing and shalt stone them with stones, till they die”. Deuteronomy 13:6-10, “If thy brother, the son of thy mother, or thy son, or thy daughter, or the wife of thy bosom, or thy friend, which is of thine own soul, entice thee secretly, saying, Let us go and serve other gods, which thou hast not known, thou, nor thy fathers; Thou shalt not consent unto him, nor hearken unto him; neither shall thine eye pity him, neither shalt thou spare, neither shalt thou conceal him: But thou shalt surely kill him; thine hand shall be first upon him to put him to death, and afterwards the hand of all the people. Thou shalt stone him with stones, that he die; because he hath sought to thrust thee away from the Lord thy God." Exodus 22:20 “He that sacrificeth unto any god, save unto the Lord only, he shall be utterly destroyed”. New Testament punishment - Mark 16:16 “He that believeth not, shall be damned”.

2nd. Commandment, Exodus 20:4 “Thou shalt not make unto thee any graven image, or any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is on the earth beneath, or that is in the water below.” Old Testament punishment- Deuteronomy 27: 1 5 “Cursed be the man that maketh any graven or molten image.” That’s right kids don’t EVER draw, sculpt or paint or else god will curse you. Wanna be an artist, a photographer, take a picture of yourself or family? TOO BAD, God says no! You better drop out of art class before he smites you with boils.

3rd. Commandment, Exodus 20:7 “Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord in vain”. Old Testament punishment - Leviticus 24:16 “And he that blasphemeth the name of the Lord, he shall surely be put to death”, New Testament punishment - Matthew 12:32 “Whosoever speaketh against the Holy Ghost, it shall not be forgiven him, neither in this world, neither in the world to come”. Mark 3:29 - “He that shall blaspheme against the Holy Ghost hath never forgivness, but is in danger of eternal damnation”.

4th. Commandment, Exodus 20:8 “Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy”. Old Testament punishment - Exodus 31:15 “Whosoever shall work in the Sabbath day, he shall surely be put to death”. Numbers 15:32. “And while the children of Israel were in the wilderness, they found a man that gathered sticks upon the Sabbath day…And all the congregation brought him without the camp, and stoned him with stones, and he died; as the Lord commanded Moses.”

5th. Commandment, Exodus 20:12 “Honour thy father and thy mother”. Old Testament punishment - Exodus 21:15-17 “And he that smiteth his father, or his mother, shall be surely put to death”. More punishment - Exodus 21:17 “And he that curseth his father, or his mother, shall surely be put to death”.

6th. Commandment, Exodus 20:13 “Thou shalt not kill”. Strangely enough this is a commandment despite all the punishments that require death in the New Testament and the Old Testament. How can thou not kill when thou is commanded to kill at the same time? This hypocrisy should be pointed out if the ten commandments are posted in schools, court rooms and buildings of legislation. The confusion of this commandment would surely bring capitol punishment into question.

7th. Commandment, Exodus 20:14 “Thou shalt not commit adultery”. Old Testament punishment - Leviticus 20:10 “And the man that committeth adultery with another man’s wife, the adulterer and the adulteress shall be put to death”.

I am working on compiling the list of punishments for commandments 8, 9, and 10. They should be up by then. In the mean while I have several other random commands by god that are quite interesting which I have listed here. The following command is very relevant for it requires a mandatory belief in the biblical god. Following the Ten Commandments, which are also listed in Deuteronomy 5:7-21, there are a number of curses which shall come upon thee, and overtake thee. These curses are given in Deuteronomy 28:17-68. Space does not permit all of them to be quoted, but a few are that the Lord will smite thee with consumption, fever, hemorrhoids, scab, madness, blindness, boils, and many more even worse.

For those of you Christians who disregard the Old Testament (even though Christ said it was forever binding), I have gathered together a great law from the New Testament. Romans 1 :29-32 “Those filled with unrighteousness, fornication, wickedness, covetousness, maliciousness; envy, murder, debate, deceit, malignity; whisperers, backbiters, hate for god, despite, proud, boasters, inventions of evil things, disobedience to parents, without understanding, covenant breakers, unnatural affection, implacable or unmerciful nature: Who knowing the judgment of God, that they which commit such things are worthy of death”.

Now I have had the displeasure of meeting many a Christian and I have one to meet as of yet, whom according to this list, are NOT worthy of death. How many of us feel envy, wish to fornicate, boast or gossip? How many Christians are guilty of debating? Why every day some Christian is debating the word of god or his dogmas with me. Every day I am the victim of deceit and despite at the hands of some Christian verbally harassing me for my beliefs. No wonder why god said that there shall only be 144,000 in the heaven out of all his followers.

In Conclusion:

Christians and Jews should post the commandments up in their parochial schools and in their churches/temples. But, if they insist on doing so they should print out this very page and hang it up for all to see. Don’t be a half-*** religionist; educate your children on what God truly commands. Stop thriving on telling half truths about your Bible/Pentateuch and publish the WHOLE story. Most importantly, do not think you have the right to post them in public institutions. It is MY job to educate MY child. Children need to learn the true meaning of love, compassion, morality, forgiveness and mercy. Not the filthy dogmas your Jehovah commands. Quite frankly, in comparison to hell-fire and damnation I’ll stick with Big Bird.

Answer 2

Nice hate spitting message you got there. Hate to tell you this, but there are more wars fought over other reasons than there are for religion. Think of all the battles Rome fought to gain it's lands, it wasn't fighting for religion. That was HUNDREDS of battles alone, many wars, some against itself. Sorry, but this message fails.

Wasn't it through science that the bigger bombs were created and dropped in WW2? How many innocent people died when those fell? How many people years later were still affected by the fall out? That was just 2 bombs. Now how many soldiers died in WW1 and WW2 just from machine gun fire? What made that? Oh right, science. So science causes death, you said it didnt, but right there you have cases where it did. Next?

Atheism is rashional and reasonable thinking? You might think so, but that is your opinon. Just like your entire slandering message. It's all your opinion and you want others to confirm it. There are people from all backrounds who are smarter than you are, and there some from all backrounds that aren't. What makes you think any of those people have no common sense or are incapable of reason because they don't think like you do? You are aware you just slandered EVERYONE who doesn't think like you? Sounds like you should be a member of the KKK if you aren't already a member, they tend to think the way you do.

Answer 3

1. It is not religious beliefs so much that causes wars, but using it as an excuse to cause it. You see, there is a BIG difference in one having a belief that demands a war, and one wanting a war and using an interpretation of those beliefs to have a war, Yours is the same logic as saying Grand theft auto causes violence, when in reality the Millions of games sold produced not even a .1 percent carnage done by people who had played it,. And guess what...those people had something wrong with them to begin with. Lakes take Christianity for an example. There is a lot of turning the other cheek, tolerance, and loving thine neighbor. This is different then Saying you are a christian but doing the opposite. Lets face it, strip all religious beliefs but keep the genes, hormones, abuse, and damages and you'll wind up with people doing wars, just the same, they will simply have different excuses.

Answer 4

Point taken, i agree with science but science does cause MASS WARS. Without science the latest weapon could not be created therefore could not be used upon another country. Science progresses quickly creating more and more weapons, each deadilier than the one before it, war is beginning and there are wars between jealous countries wanting to know how to build these things. War, death, bloodshed. Mostly the cause of science. It is a sad thing but human intelligence is ever growing and nothing can stop it. Although i do think if we had enough smartness couldn't we STOP wars?

Answer 5

Vox...Empathy and reason the basis of humanism do NOT lead to wars. Dogmas such as individualistic greedy politics, communism, marxism, and religion do. The scientist who built the ridiculous weapon didn't initiate the idea of it or the use of it, by the way. Dogmas provide people an easy way to identify their enemy, it allows them to be righteous and therefore dehumanise the enemy. Just like Bush is doing in Iraq. Xians cry for stopping stem cell research while they let thousands of innocent people die in a country their president has ordered to be illegally occupied and has instigated a civil war in. Tell me -- do you really think Richard Dawkins is more dangerous than the baptist member George Bush who claims to get direct advice from your god???

What is dangerous is WILLFUL IGNORANCE!

Answer 6

Are you sure?
Religion may be blamed but usually its power crazy politicians,
megalomaniacs who feel they are supreme.
Science created the nuclear age, global warming and many other problems in today's world, I accept it has also done a lot of good.
Those who believe and those who don't should try to respect one and other, If you eat meat and I don't what right do I have to tell you you are wrong.
I feel you are using recent and current events without looking deeply enough into this issue. The way to stop the evil, as you call it, is tolerance.

Answer 7

Sadly Christians consciousness at the sin habits and make that the dilemma. We within the human race are separated from God and persons born in sin (and that's each and every human on this planet) can't reside in a excellent God's presence. Sexual habits of any style does no longer restrict a man or woman from heaven, it's being a less than perfect being. The handiest solution to heaven is via Jesus. Because Jesus used to be excellent, people who be given Him will probably be in God's kingdom. (now considering that you're an athiest I do not assume you to consider on this however I am doing my satisfactory to provide an explanation for this). Even a man or woman who accepts Christ continues to be a sinner, we're imperfect usually lie, pass judgement on, are jealous, fall into sexual sin however since Christ's sacrifice is whole we nonetheless have the savior who saves us from hell. John three:sixteen-18 indicates that God loves us such a lot that He despatched Jesus to die for us, whoever believes in Jesus can have everlasting lifestyles and people who do not are condemned already. It's perception in Christ or a scarcity thereof that determines a man or woman's everlasting fate. A virgin who has by no means had intercourse or want to have intercourse external of marriage does not get a cross to heaven except they've religion in Christ. On the opposite part a man or woman who's interested in the equal intercourse, struggles with it but places their religion in Christ is a baby of God and will probably be in heaven. Unfortunately we within the Christian group simply appear at outward habits after which condemn persons headquartered upon that. God has advised us to come back to Him as we're, and allow Him "manage the sin behaviors" (there are lots of persons who've been into medications, equal intercourse relationships and so forth who once they supply their lifestyles to God are competent to stroll within the course He could have them stroll in) Your accusers leave out the factor your sexuality does no longer preserve you from heaven--a loss of religion in Christ does. Christians don't seem to be excellent, simply forgiven.

Answer 8

"sigh"..the blame game..always the blame game..blame religion for it all...uh huh. Yup its religion that is slaughtering people in Iraq..It was religion that started the 1st, 2nd world wars..the vietnam war, the gulf war..the korean war..uh huh..
Best show all the proof for this or zip the lips..it's better to remain silent than to post something with no proof..make blanket statements and look a fool who wants to blame anything it hates...that is real easy to do..to point the fingers isn't it.

Answer 9

Have I just read that right, Rome didn't fight wars for religious purposes? They certainly fooled me those cheeky romans, they used to do it for the glory of the gods after all and to convert other areas to the Roman god system.

Maybe they were joking when they named Mars as God of death and War? Afterall wasn't Rome founded by Romulus and Remus, who were sons of Mars?

Answer 10

Do you mean to say that we will believe your theory but we will not believe God, so that we will lost our faith to God. No way. You are making magic.

If you do good surely you are in the side of God but if you do bad things, you definitely under the influence of evil spirit.
jtm

Answer 11

venting again { sigh }
I hate to tell you but atheism is a religion.
and to me religion is MAN made.
being a "true" Christan is not religious rituals it's simply faith in God and Jesus, men make up "labels" I'm a this or that.

once your in a fanatical group your in a "religion"and from what I read on your Y/Q it couldn't be more fanatical.

and read history it's chalked full of atheist war mongers..jeez

so take a chill pill, relax, no ones out to get ya.