What does it mean when the bible calls the Ishmaelite a “wild man” ?

Question

Rabbi Frand points out additionally that the Ishmaelite are armed with a potent weapon, a supreme weapon --the power of prayer. After all, Ishmael is born as a result of the power of prayer. The angels tell Hagar (Genesis 16:11) --- "Hee'nach harah v'ya'ladet ben," behold you are going to bear a child, "Kee sha'ma Hashem et ahn'yaich," for G-d has heard the cry of your travail. In the wilderness of Paran (Arabia), Ishmael himself is saved by the power of prayer and granted a miraculous spring of water. Genesis 21:17, "Kee sha'ma Elokim et kol ha'na'ar," G-d heard the cries of the infant (Ishmael), the angel tells Hagar.

Muslims pray with zeal--five times a day. They are willing to march for thousands of miles to visit Mecca and Medina in order to show their commitment to prayer.

The Torah predicts that the Ishmaelite(Muslims) will be a perah adam, a wild man, a free man.
They will constantly raise their hand against all other men who have authority. As if freedom is the only honor. They will forever be “men who kick like WILD DONKEYS against those who come to shackle them”. They will be the most difficult people on earth to conquer and oppress, but the perfect people to entrust with a divine message.

Answer 1

Hmmm, interesting history.

Was it a coincidence that Mohammad was a descendent of Ishmael?

So far as I've read, only the people of Mecca, and that, too, his own Tribe, the beni al Quraish Jews had run Mohammad out of Mecca when he went to Medina and gathered up an army and attacked and defeated them, later almost massacring almost all of them.

If my reading is correct is correct, the Hashemite rulers of Jordan claim to be descendants of his cousin and son in law - Ali, from which family is expected to come the Imam Mahdi. who shall rule the World.

Now, the question that I have is - Weren't they always the aggressors, since then?

They invaded Egypt, claiming the Christians were oppressed by the Romans, who weren't around, by that time, since they'd turned Christians; so, one wonders about the veracity of this one?

They invaded Iraq, Iran and India. Turkey and even Spain and so on.

So, who oppressed whom?

The "perfect people to entrust the Divine Message"? I'm not too sure that I can agree, I'm sorry.

This does seem rather far fetched.

ST

Answer 2

However, you must remember that Ishmael was not the Boy that God blessed. Ishmael was a "usurper" of Isaac's place. Ishmael was a child of disobedience, Abraham's disobedience to God. because God told him to lay with his wife, that she would bear his child and that God would bless his seed.
And, yet, like you said, Ishmael was saved, and all you said seemed correct, and although I am no master or old languages or biblical translation, i believe that being a "wild man" is not the positive term you are trying to make it look like.
and if you continue reading the bible, you'll find that God doesn't care about sacrifice (like Saul's sacrifice before the battle) but he cares about abedience. So it doesn't matter if you pray (they say it makes you psychologically stronger, which I'm pretty sure it does) if you disobey God you are done for.
Furthermore if you continue reading, you'll find that there is salvation in none else but in Jesus. Jesus is the Son of God, the savior, the messiah, he says "I am the way the truth and the life..." it doesn't matter if you pray, if you do not accept Jesus in your heart as your lord and savior, you will surely end in the lake of fire after armagedon and be destroyed with satan(it you continue to read revelations).

;-)

Good point though. it was interesting to read.

Answer 3

If that's what you rabbi says, I'd say that you have a renegade rabbi.