Lets say there is no God, and the big bang was the start. But where did the stuff come from for the big bang?

Question

You say believeing in god is crazy, but I have a problem believeing that the gases that caused the big bang where always here. Our minds can not comprehend something ALWAYS being here, just as one can not comprehend GOD completely. What is the difference of believe the two? Our human minds can not fully comprehend nor explain either. If you can have a big bang, from gases that have always been here, in a space that has always been, Then I can believe in a God who has always been.

Answer 1

If God created the universe, he exists outside of time (and we will too when we die, sounds like fun.) If the Big Bang started the universe, and time with it, then maybe the things that caused it were outside time as well.

You're right that we can't comprehend this stuff, and some atheists assert things too boldly. but religious people not only claim to understand it, but they claim we should keep gay people from getting married based on that same understanding. Crazy, thy name is religious fundamentalist.

Answer 2

Maybe there's a possibility that everything has been here for so long we couldn't possibly comprehend it. The universe is infinitely huge. So huge most people wouldn't be able to understand it. Maybe our solar system came from a bang that was caused by another system, that was caused by another system, and so on and so on and so on. Maybe it's a loop. Maybe it happens over and over again. No one knows. But I'm more inclined to believe that than to believe some guy out there in the middle of nowhere decided one day to make himself into existence and then create the universe.

An equally valid question would be, "Where did god come from?" He can't make himself. And if he always was, that would basically be impossible.

Answer 3

Let's say there is a God and the Big Bang was the start of this particular galaxy or world. One does not disallow the other. It does not mean that God was not always there and you are right...God is beyond human comprehension.

The Skeptical Christian
Grace and Peace
Peg

Answer 4

This stirs once again the never ending debate between creationism v/s evolution.
The big bang is a scientific theory which tries to rebute the commonly held view that God created the world.
Let's adopt the following approach: "Everything that exists must have been produced"
A pen is made by the manufacturer, carbon dioxide is made by trees,...but what about man?
We can aver that man has been created by God,...that God has always been there. But following our approach, we would also have to assert that God has itself been created.
And i know no religious person who would agree with that. We say that God created us, but that he himself has not been created. Views on this matter are diverging.

Answer 5

You are looking at things entirely backwards. God comes from without the cosmos. We come from a single point in the cosmos. Within us (in what seems to be a point), God is moving even farther inward in all points in the cosmos. The big bang you speak of was an implosion, not an explosion. The energy is in abundance outside the cosmos. When energy works it's way inward (smaller, and smaller), eddy currents are formed. Smaller than the atom, the particle and wave, smaller even yet, everywhere in the cosmos. God is moving from macro, to micro. You are looking out to find Him. He has left the macro. He is forging a path ahead of our microscopes into the final frontier, the micro universe.

In the micro universe, energy from without manifests itself in quantum. Quantum leaps and bounds on that level.

When you live in a 1g environment for about 1 hundred years, a small particle will blip into existance. A quantum blip, the physical manifestation of your soul. You must get out of the 1g environment at that point, or your micro soul will be sucked to the nearest center of gravity. In our case, that is the very hot core of the earth.

Achieve free fall, or suffer eternal flames. Take a ride in space, and refuse to return to the 1g road to hell. Don't be seduced into a 1g trip to another heavenly body, unless you plan to stay in space. Don't go near any distant suns, lurk in the shadows of minor bodies. Comets are cool. Asteroids will work.

You will be free, in a permenant falling state of grace.

See, it's simple. The bang goes in, not out. But you have to go out, to stay in!

Amen...

Answer 6

God shows Himself in the world we live but people don't believe in Him. The Bible has already judged unbelievers. Read Romans 1.

Answer 7

he difference is that one explanation stops the need to overthink while the other doesnt,
one is based on measurable phenomea and and commonly accepted deduction the other is leaning heavily on the subjective interpretations of these phenomea. if you arrive to the point where something should have exist all the time , then its time to select , i come to the opposite conclusion because i believe it is a more natural one

Answer 8

Nobody ever fought wars over the big bang theory unlike the people who fight over their version of god

Answer 9

it relies upon on how the godhead works, how deities are created and if there's a geneaology of gods and lords in heaven. i think of this questions qualifies for something that may not have the ability to be replied till we learn from time return and forth or have direct revelation on the subject. i don comprehend that one prophet interior the LDS church provided the thought as Jesus grew to become into born of His Father, God the father grew to become into born of His Father and so on and so on. as for the statment that announces God has no commencing up, i think of you may desire to envision the verse returned, i think of it comes from the e book of hebrews. perhaps ch. 7. yet once you think of roughly, ch. 7 talks correct to the Priesthood, not the commencing up of God.

Answer 10

Why does theosophy have to be separate from science? Maybe science is God's language. Infinity is beyond our concept either way.