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burden of proof on us lol thats funny

2007-04-24 09:48:36 · 42 answers · asked by Anonymous in Society & Culture Religion & Spirituality

funny how you avoid the question, btw no i cannot "prove" God exists, BUT my ideology is not based on PROOF it is based on FAITH, hence the question, IF YOU BELIEVE IN PROOF< CAN U PROVE HE DOES"T EXIST? nope didnt think so

2007-04-24 10:00:19 · update #1

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Atheists are incapable of proving or disproving anything and therefore atheism is empty...

2007-04-24 09:58:43 · answer #1 · answered by Redeemed 5 · 0 1

Can religious people provide any evidence that they understand the nature of the power that created everything any better than a flea does?

Every religious person believes that other believers have got it wrong in some way, so each one partially refutes all the others. Most religious believers refute nearly all of what others believe. When you take all believers into account, no one idea is not refuted by someone else who sincerely believes him or herself to be correct. Athiests don't beleive anything that every believer doesn't already think - they simply don't pick and choose. BTW - I'm not an athiest, so don't start, people.

For example, if you take any list of religious ideas, only a subset of those ideas is believed by any given person. For example, if you take a list of the 100 most believed ideas in religions around the world, most people don't believe in all of them, or even most of them. For example, would you ask a Christian to prove that the universe wasn't born from a sacred bull, or that true heaven is the extinction of the self? Would you ask a Muslim to prove that Jesus wasn't the son of God? By that same idea, why is it so different that someone should not believe anything on the list? The burden of proof is the same. If Athiests should be made to prove that there is no God, Christians should be made to prove that what Muslims believe is wrong, and vice versa.

How many religious people do you know who have changed churches or chosen a religion because the beliefs of that organization matched to what they considered right. Everyone says they're following God's plan - most follow their own and call it God's.

I notice that the poster of this question has mentioned faith. Faith is something that all religious people, even ones who believe in something you absolutely oppose (e.g. Satanists), have in abundance. At the same time, you believe that Faith is somehow an argument for your position, but you ignore the fact that people just like you have faith in things that are in conflict with what you believe. If an Athiest has faith that there is no God, does that impress you? Would any "evidence" matter, if faith is the only measure? Then, why did you ask the question?

2007-04-24 10:11:10 · answer #2 · answered by Anthony J 3 · 0 0

Techincally the proof of burden is on no one since a transcendental being cannot be proved or disproved in the physical world.(dispite that uninformed athiest try to use the fallacy that you cannot disprove (prove) a negative you can Math does it all the time)

So anyone asking for proof (ie those that say prove God exists) or disproof (ie prove God does not exist) are equally dumb.

As are the people that attempt to argue it for once the burden of proof has been picked up you have to pull the other person across the line where the other person to win only has to stay put where they are. And fact that someone would use of the phrase "prove it" implies they are closed minded enough (either way)that they not going anywhere.

2007-04-24 09:56:25 · answer #3 · answered by Anonymous · 0 1

I can logically prove that the Christian god does not exist, absolutely. The Christian god is supposed to be all-knowing and all-powerful, but this is where the Christians went wrong. Answer this simple question: Can the Christian god create a mountain so large that he is unable to destroy it?

If you answer yes, then there is something he is unable to do (he can only destroy mountains of a smaller size), so he is not all-powerful.
If you answer no, then there is still something he cannot do (he can only create mountains of a smaller size), so he is not all-powerful.

Logic alone dictates that there absolutely cannot be an all-powerful god. This is not to say that there is no god, though I believe that no god exists. But if a god was to exist, then he, she, or it could not be all-powerful. This eliminates many gods as possibilities, unless you are willing to change your stance and say that god is limited in power. As for the burden, can you prove that the Flying Spaghetti Monster does not exist? If not, then you have to admit that it is as plausible a god as yours. Actually, it is more plausible, since there is no claim of the FSM being all-powerful (just all-knowing).

2007-04-24 10:11:31 · answer #4 · answered by seattlefan74 5 · 0 0

Yet another sheep bleating one of those If I Only Had A Nickel questions. How original. Right up there with plagiarizing the specific bible passages they were told to in a weak attempt to form an opinion.

Yes, the burden of proof IS on you. That's how science and logic works.

But if you insist, tell me why a PERFECT being would have to repent, show human emotion, make human mistakes, and fail to eliminate all other "false" deities. Logic dictates that a PERFECT being would be immune to the foibles of mortality.

Since Christians cannot even comprehend the extent of their own creation, God is put into a nice, human-sized, oxymoronic package of hypocrisy. Stories about a supreme being do not make him exist any more than stories about leprechauns make them real.

So you'll have to come up with something more convincing than a Because I Said So excuse.

2007-04-24 10:05:38 · answer #5 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Okay, I'm not an Atheist but I must point out that the existence of God is a premise. It is a positive statement. Thus, it is up to Theists to prove their claims. The burden of proof is upon us. No one can prove a negative.

2007-04-24 09:57:04 · answer #6 · answered by zahir13 4 · 0 0

Can you prove that unicorns, gremlins, zombies, aliens, ninja turtles, klingons, Santa Claus, Easter bunny, Zeus, Vishnu, Allah, and the flying spaghetti monster does not exist? NO?! Well then I guess you have no choice but to believe in them. You better find a therapist real quick.

2007-04-24 10:02:31 · answer #7 · answered by Anonymous · 0 0

Do you believe in Thor or Zeus? I would assume not if you are a Bible following Christian. Can you prove they do not exist? The burden of proof is on you because you are asserting your beliefs as truth. If I were to tell you there is a pink flying unicorn in my closet, the burden of proof is not on you to disprove me, it is on me to show you it exists. Do you believe in an orbiting teapot going around the Sun? It is too small for somebody to disprove using our telescopes, yet if you were to go out into society and proclaim it exists simply because we cannot disprove it, you would be put in an insane asylum.

2007-04-24 09:54:39 · answer #8 · answered by Anonymous · 1 1

Can you prove the tooth fairy doesn't exist?

You can NOT prove that something doesn't exist THAT is why the burden of proof is on the person claiming something exists.

If it DOES exist you should be able to PROVE that it exists otherwise you are just making things up.

2007-04-24 09:54:24 · answer #9 · answered by thewolfskoll 5 · 1 1

I do not have to.

If I claim that there is a unicorn at the bottom of my garden, you do not need to prove its non-existence, it is up to me to prove that it exists.

This is true in society for everything except religion. I wonder why?


So, what is your reason for believing in God? Why not Allah, Jehovah, Vishnu, Buddha, Ra, Odin, Zeus, or any of the other thousands of gods that people have believed in before?

2007-04-24 09:59:44 · answer #10 · answered by Simon T 6 · 0 0

i can. for something to exist they must share similar characteristics of other things that exist. tangibility is the biggest factor. it has to be something you can see and touch. i can neither see god, nor touch god, therefore that argument is in favor of god not existing. there are however things that can exist that are not necessarily tangible, i.e. thoughts. if this is your argument, then god is a thought and not actually a being. however, among theists, they will deny that god is a thought. shall i go on? or is this enough proof for god not existing?

2007-04-24 09:55:18 · answer #11 · answered by just curious (A.A.A.A.) 5 · 2 0

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