Atheists, What is the most credible argument youve heard for the existence of God?

Question

Meaning the strongest argument believers use to try to convince you...... Or are there none???

Answer 1

As an Atheist who would really like to think someone is driving this train I must say that no Christian has ever given me anything that resembles a reason to believe in God.

My father-in-law said he couldn't accept that this life was it. That was his reason.

The closest thing I can come up with is chemistry. Specifically the elements Hydrogen and Oxygen. The most flammable gas known to mankind and the only real oxidizer known to mankind. We combine them in the exhaust nozzle of a Saturn 5 and we can go to the moon. Nature combines them and we can put out fires with the resulting water. I will say one thing, if there is a God, S/he has a sense of humor.

Answer 2

The strongest argument is to play on the fear of non-existence after death.


But then that is just playing on normal human fears and is not really a credible argument.


But, if I had been given a credible argument, would I still be an atheist? In fact if there was a credible argument would not all the ex-atheists have explained it to all the other atheists and there would be no atheists left?

What does that say about the existence of a credible argument?

Answer 3

I hope you won't mind that a theist would answer you. Here it is.

Others ask is there evidence of God’s existence? The Bible says that there is a builder for every house but he who built all things is God. ( Hebrew 3:4) This Biblical statement can be proven by the following logical argument.

Premise 1. Outputs = Inputs + process

Premise 2. For premise 1 to come about someone has to have the resources and power to do the process. Let him be called the Great Cause.

Premise 3. For every rule there is an exception.

Premise 4. The rule on exception can not be applied to any of the components on Premise 1 because it would be non-sense.

Premise 5. The rule on exception must therefore be applied to premise 2.

Conclusion: Therefore, the Great Cause ( the one w/ resources and sufficient might) was the one who caused Premise 1. Further He was not subject to Premise 1 by reason of premise 3.

One atheist e-mailed me to prove that the above argument is not true. I kindly explained to him why this is true by observing common laws and things in life.

On the other hand, he says that a science lab has observed that things can occur w/o a cause. My question is: have they created a mere worm out of non-living dust?

To see is to believe. Tell scientist about this

Answer 4

When I began writing, nobody had answered and so if you don't mind, I'll give my reasoning as though I were talking to an atheist.

One part of me wonders about the idea of a big bang which led to the development of a single celled organism, only one of them, and yet that somehow managed to create millions of species of plants and animals. Isn't the idea of evolution meant to create a less complex life for the various species? In other words, when a bird comes to a different land and their offspring, suggestively, adapt and evolve to the new environment so as to live more easily, why is it that the single celled organism create the complexity of fertility, two genders, rather than just creating one gender to multiply itself at will and necessity for extending its progeny.

Let every child be a statement of God's existence, but not the only one. Everytime you cry because you're happy (and I don't mean because you're laughing so hard your gut's about to explode and tears spring forth), feel it. Nobody can convince somebody who's convinced of the opposite, it's like putting a republican and a democrat in there, both with the goal of convincing each other that they're right, you'll just end up with a dead democrat (republicans support the NRA). If, however, an atheist momentarily becomes agnostic and is willing to listen without the firmness of brain or heart (yes, I said heart, how cliche, I know) then what I am about to say, may make more sense. I said earlier, to feel it because it is not a scientific calculation. When the "Holy Ghost" is mentioned, it's because it is a feeling, not something anybody can show you, only something you as an individual can feel. That's why other atheists haven't been able to tell you why they've changed, because it is not up to them to convince your "heart" what it should feel. This is my advice, you may take it or leave it, but I've told you how to accomplish it. Go into the privacy of your home or room with an open mind. Think clearly and cleanly and talk to God. Don't just talk, but ask your questions, listen for answers in ways like, feeling peaceful vs. feeling frustrated about a certain thought. If, at the end of this communication, having done as I recommended, you still feel as if there is not God, than let it be your belief. I cannot convince you there is a God, but He can.

I know this seems like a lot, but it's easier than getting angry over people trying to convince you in their own ways all the time.

Answer 5

Most credible? Strongest... ermm... lemme see...

I suppose the Kalam Cosmological Argument was the closest:
1 - Everything that comes into existence must have a cause.
2 - The universe came into existence.
C - The universe must have a cause.

It's NOT a good argument by any stretch of the imagination, but it's better than much of the other junk in virtue of the fact that it doesn't start out pre-supposing the existence of "god," nor requires specific "attributes" of this god-thing, nor requires the audience to pre-supposed the truth of the Bible.

Answer 6

Some of these answers were precious. And unlike most of my posts I do not mean that in a sarcastic way.

But honestly, the last man standing is "you can't prove god does not exist" which really is not much of an argument at all. I usually counter with the fact that the argument works both ways, and propose we go for a probability score. My reward is dead silence or abuse.

Answer 7

I've never heard a single argument that carried any weight.

But I would say that the strongest of Christian arguments contain false premises.

For example, using the apostle's willingness to die as proof of Jesus' existence. On the surface this appears to be a rather convincing argument. But underneath, it's really no different that using the elves to prove Santa's existence.

Answer 8

ultimate argument for God i think of is "how might desire to the great bang come from not something? there might desire to have been a special mover to get issues going" additionally the way that issues in nature look to greater healthful at the same time, its chaotic, even though it has the texture of prepared chaos, the way existence renews and recycles, can all the finished thing approximately existence be basically a random twist of fate? ultimate argument against in my opinion is the no info argument, and rather the "why would not God heal amputees?" argument, in spite of the shown fact that many human beings have recovered from terminal ailments or have been stored in techniques that look "unbelievable" It never stands as much as complicated technology a minimum of not in a a hundred% way, nonetheless, there are lots of of "twist of fate" that to me, it factors to a supernatural international, this would not although, tutor my or all people Else's very own G(g)od or view of the supernatural, for the reason that all faiths have experienced such "miracles"

Answer 9

Why in God's name (Jesus Christ, thank you very much) would atheists get on a religion and spirituality question and answer forum and spew their trash?
You all are obcessed with God. You talk about Him all the time, you argue about HIm all the time, you challenge others about Him all the time. When do you ever have time to atheate? What is up with you dead folks who don't have anywhere to go after you leave this dimension. Since you came from nothing divine or immortal or eternal, you have no purpose, no destiny and are outraged at all the people who do!
If God isn't real and you don't believe in Him, why don't you shut up about it.
O, I guess it's hard to get support and conversation going about "no one and nothing" huh?
You may not believe in God, but you believe in believers and constantly intrude into their Q & A forums.
Who you all kidding? Yourselves?

Answer 10

the red sox won the world series isn't enough??? I reject any secular religious authority and organization but there IS something to the universe. Nature follows ordered patterns, it has a beginning it will have an end. It suggests a pattern and patterns are created. Man is chaos and creates disorder. Nture is oval not circular. Man creates straight lines. Nature coexists in balance with itself, man causes disarray through development instead of learning coexistence and calling it progress. Everything we need is all around us and has been but we follow our animal instincts down the road to chaos.
It's like Chevy Chase in Caddyshack: " there's a force to the universe that makes things happen. And all you have to do is get in touch with it, stop thinking and let things happen, and be the ball"
It's there's a hidden path in the woods that's left for us to follow that negates the need to lay down tarmac. And how do these patterns and paths get there for us to follow???A God or something we should show more respect than by following a christianity for dummies that was pandered to us by the roman catholic council of nicea??? Please!

Vin