How will pulling out of iraq help anything?

Question

I'm very curious on what all ou anti-war people think pulling out of iraq will help? its going to be another repeat of vietnam, when we pull out civil war will ensue and massive killings will start. the kurds, shiiats and suniis will not live in peace and there scuiced bombings have proved this many times, so how will pulling out help any thing? think a little bit about it we messed up iraq no doubt but to destroy some thing and leave it there to suffer and die is worse then stay and help the best we can. I just want to hear all your pacifistic bull because it seems to me that you all are very hipocritical because how will peace happen if we pull out?

Answer 1

For the record, I'm not anti-war. In fact, I'm in the military, just not currently in Iraq.


1. I could ask you the question, "How will staying in Iraq help anything?" The bad guys have an unlimited force pool to draw upon in the form of angry Islamics who are extremely pissed off that we're in their country. Every one of them that we kill is replaced by another who is just as upset, and there is no way we're going to "Kill all the terrorists." It just won't happen.

2. How will telling the legitimate Iraqi government that we will provide the most fierce and technologically advanced military in the world for their protection for an unlimited duration inspire them to actually step up and start defending their own country? We've been training them for 3+ years, 300,000+ of them, and they're not capable of running their own country. We take an 18 year old kid, send him to a few months of training, hand him a rifle, and tell him to go die for someone else's country, yet they can't step up to the plate and defend themselves after 3+ years of training? Something's wrong with that. I applaud the Iraqis who are serving their country, and think that they are VERY brave for just enlisting in their Army, but at the same time, I can't help but think that this blank check we have promised them is enabling them to not perform their missions.

3. The longer we stay, the more adaptive they are going to become to our tactics and way of war. We have seen this in the fact that they have learned to shoot down our choppers, blow up our armored vehicles, and circumvent our security efforts. This will only get worse over time. This is the nature of asymetric warfare...they'll study us, learn what we do, then use every dirty trick in the book to hit us below the belt.

4. We have to accept the fact that we're not going to leave Iraq a peaceful country, no matter how long we stay. Even the top military leaders have said that car bombings are going to be a part of the regular Iraqi way of life for the foreseeable future.

5. You said it yourself..."kurds, shiiats and suniis will not live in peace" [sic]. Our efforts are not going to help this situation.


Eventually we are going to pull out...That's a given, as the American people are going to demand it come next election. Even the Republican presidential candidate will have an Iraqi exit strategy as part of his campaign...just wait and see.

Answer 2

Not only would it save a lot of American service peoples lives, it would save an enormous amount of tax dollars. When President Bush convinced Tony Blair and other leaders that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction, he opened a can of worms the proportions of which he had never considered. With or without the allied forces being in Iraq there is already virtual civil war there. You may as well let them fight it out and perhaps when they have killed enough of each other they will get tired of it and learn to live together.

Answer 3

It won’t help what so ever. Yeah we will save our soldiers but more people will die by the violence that will resurface after we leave. The soldiers don’t want to die but they singed for that job and they know the risk, but the idea of having everyone here back in America safe is what keeps them going strong. Also is money worth more then peoples lives. If we pull out we will save tons of money but the people who we leave behind will pay the ultimate price… their lives.

Answer 4

We should not have gone in in the first place. Shi'ites and Sunnis have been fighting each other since 632 A.D. so somehow this brilliant architect of this travesty thought that if he crammed democracy down their throats, he would have been hailed the "all conquering hero" because somehow he managed to resolved a conflict that is almost 2 millenia old. Talk about an overrated opinion of ones self importance.
I am here listening to the hearing where Kevin Tillman on C-SPAN3 has enlightened me even more as to why we need to get out.
We are being told that some of our soldiers are being killed by insurgents or non combat related accidents and these have been complete and utter fabrications. For example Pvt. Jesse Bodie was killed 5/5/2004 in Iraq. His family was told he was killed in a vehicle accident. 1 year later they find out when they got his autopsy report, he had been shot in the back. The Army said he was accidently shot by a Polish soldier. Just recently out of nowhere a Lieutenant showed at their house to tell them that he had been shot by an officer in his own unit. Some of them are being killed by the very people we insist they are to train. The Iraqi soldiers themselves. Sgt. Patrick McCafferty was killed 6/22/2004. His family was told he was killed in an ambush by insurgents. 2 years later, they found those "so called" insurgents were the same Iraqi troops he had been training. Before his death he told his chain of command that these same troops that he was training were trying to kill him.
Why should we continue to do so? Since they are so hell bent on killing themselves let them do it.
Iraqis need to step up to the plate if they want peace. Peace and democracy has to be fostered from within not from the outside. You mentioned Vietnam. Yes, chaos ensued after the US pulled out but they figured it out themselves without outside interference. It is still Communist but it is making the progress it needs to make towards its own version of democracy. Fostered from within.

Answer 5

how will peace happen if the troop stay in?
for how long do they need to stay in?
How long did the vietnamese fought among themselves after vietnamese war? dont they live quite peacefully right now?
how about letting neutral troop to get in? dont we have un peacekeeping?
i thought the reason why the war started was to give freedom to iraqis (although if i remember correctly the original reason was the wmd, it somehow changed to operation free iraqis). so give them freedom

Answer 6

It won't help, just makes things worse. Well, except for the fact that it would prolly push dems out of control over congress. Like when they had the same attitude about Vietnam

Answer 7

Truth is....there are no good answers to this....

Pulling out will likely be a disaster....certainly for the people of Iraq.

Staying is clearly a disaster......in human costs and financial.

If we stay....what does that mean? What conditions will need to exist for us to be able to leave? Do you really think those conditions are possible? Seems to me that staying, means staying forever........

That is unacceptable.......so, yes, pulling out will be a nightmare......staying a nightmare..........so what is the difference......

Well.....one HUGE difference, is that the people of Iraq overwhealmingly want us to leave.......that is right, the people that we are paternalistically telling that we know what is best for them, WANT US TO LEAVE......

Answer 8

1) it would bring our sons and daughters "home" safely.
2) perhaps, then, the heads of our country will concentrate on the affairs of our own needs, here, in the US, with the help of our military members in tact, here @ "home" (dah.).
3) we need to take care of ourselves lst and foremost BEFORE we can "stick" our noses in someone elses affairs. (dah)
4: we didn't do the destroying so much as their own people and the way they behave , did..........who are we to "fix" things, how can we?.......we can't even clean up our own political "crap"
5) etc, etc, etc....................

Answer 9

How about they have to work together and no longer have an invading infidel to bind them together (their words not mine). As an added bonus our sons and daughters no longer get killed

Answer 10

Once the troops are home, they can cut the military budget and divert the money to social programs.