Why do Christians obey Paul the Murderer more than Jesus the Christ?

Question

Christ says is wrong to judge & condemn others--Paul says go for it.Paul says you are "saved" if you confess Christ with your tongue--Christ said "calling me Lord,Lord" means nothing.Paul says you should shave off a Christian womens hair if she refuses to wear a veil covering her head.Christ made no comment about womens fashions.--etc--etc (1 Corinthians 11:5 But every woman that prayeth or prophesieth with
her head uncovered dishonoureth her head: for that is even all one as
if she were shaven.
11:6 For if the woman be not covered, let her also be shorn)

Answer 1

I'm so glad that someone pointed this out because many Christians overlook Paul's writings and accept it as though it's divine.

This guy admits t being a liar in Romans 3:7 and denied the law Christ lived by thru out his books.

He contradicted himself 3times about meeting Jesus on the roadside.

Act 9:3 And as he journeyed, he came near Damascus: and suddenly there shined round about him a light from heaven:
Act 9:4 And he fell to the earth, and heard a voice saying unto him, Saul, Saul, why persecutest thou me?
Act 9:5 And he said, Who art thou, Lord? And the Lord said, I am Jesus whom thou persecutest: [it is] hard for thee to kick against the pricks.
Act 9:6 And he trembling and astonished said, Lord, what wilt thou have me to do? And the Lord [said] unto him, Arise, and go into the city, and it shall be told thee what thou must do.
Act 9:7 And the men which journeyed with him stood speechless, hearing a voice, but seeing no man.
Act 9:8 And Saul arose from the earth; and when his eyes were opened, he saw no man: but they led him by the hand, and brought [him] into Damascus.

And if u read chapters 22 & 26 of the same book, u'll see where he said different things on this same story.

This was the guy who have them calling themselves 'Christian' today but little do they realize that if u switch the letters a bit, u'll easily get ANTI-Christ.

Answer 2

My friend, I do not see any conflict between Paul's words and the words of Jesus. Each had their own tasks to accomplish and each did their jobs being guided by the same spirit [spirit of God]. In my view, Jesus was very general in many areas and Paul was more specific in details in similar areas and in some that Jesus did not really expound on. Jesus taught tho the Jews mostly while Paul taught to the Gentiles and each had their own customs and ways of life. Many of the supposed conflicts it seems you see is because the Gentiles did not have the same dress code and the same status in positions between the husband and wife that the Jews were taught and saw as the norm. It is written that the laws were given to the Jews only and not to another nation. The 10, 11, 12, etc you did list are in fact all facts from the recorded words of the Bible and Jesus stated that every word was important when He resisted the temptation of the Devil. In Genesis the woman is put under the authority of the husband. In Proverbs it talks of a married woman who does with good works put on display Godliness. Did Paul really insist a woman wear a veil or did he not say the the hair is a covering that displays that a woman is under the authority of a man? Please study those verses again my friend.

Answer 3

Oh the problems between Paul's teachings and the teachings of Jesus go even further then what you mentioned. Paul teaches that the law was only a school master to bring you to Christ that after salvation there is no need for the law. Jesus said he didn't come to change the law. He also didn't say that he did away with the law either.

Jesus also taught that you are judged by works not faith.
Paul taught that you are judged by faith not works.
Clearly they contradict each other!

The truth is Paul was intent on destroying what Jesus was doing and he realized that in order to do that he would need to act as if he was following this Jesus while making sure to put his own sick ideas in there. That way his ideas not the ideas of Jesus would be what the religion is based on.

Thus he wrote most of the New Testament and Christianity is not based on Jesu but Paul. It should more accurately be called Paulism!

Answer 4

uh, check the Scriptures again.

Jesus said "not all those who cry Lord, Lord or Abba, Father, will make it", but that doesn't mean words aren't significant. Your "heart" and your mouth have to be in unison for words to matter.

Paul's message was about order in the church. In a patriarchal society, if a woman interrupted a man (amplified version) even for prophesying, it was disrespectful, and reflected negatively on the church: if potential believers are apalled at what they see, they will not join. Paul said "the spirit of the prophet is subject to the prophet", so your will comes into play. this can also work with embarrassing someone, such as the pastor: if the pastor is immoral and doesn't know it, and the Holy Spirit reveals it to you in a dream, and then you blurt it out in church.....

with the woman's fashions thing, again, the society. If a woman was disrepsectful, there were more emotional punishments. while a man would be expelled from the church, a woman would be publically disgraced. again, order and discipline, not neccessarily holiness.

please stop generalizing. Paul was good, but even he said to learn from Jesus' example.

Answer 5

Christ did NOT teach not to judge at all: He also taught "wherefore judge right judgment"

You cut Paul off short, "confess with your mouth and believe with your heart." Real belief, which by the way the Greek word for faith is interchangable with the word for obedience, results in obedience.

Just because Christ said nothing of women's fashions does not mean that Paul was not free to teach on that topic. Further, you fail to mention that Paul is using a ridiculous hyperbole about why a woman ought to have her head covered. You fail to mention that the culture of that day signified marriage by the wearing of a vail, and that to take it off dishonored her "head," or her husband. The modern equivalent would be for a woman to remove her wedding ring when she prayed. That said, Paul further taught, in the same passage I might add, that a woman's hair is given to her for a covering, so in either case, whether married or single, she ought not to dishonor her head.

I can only conclude that either: 1) you have not been shown how to engage in careful scholarship or 2) you have some sort of axe to grind. If there is a third option, it escapes me.

Incidentally, Paul never claimed to be anything more than the least of God's people seeing he had persecuted the Lord's church. Christianity is about forgiveness, and if we hold you to your own standard, where would you be?

Tom

Answer 6

The writings of Paul are there for a reason. That being said, I've copied an answer that I gave a couple of weeks ago that may help.

I struggle as do many with the teachings of Paul. One thought that has helped me in studying the writings of Paul is that what we are reading is half of a conversation about particular problems in particular churches at the time. Kind of like listening to half of a phone conversation and attempting to understand the whole. If we do not compare what Paul is saying to the rest of the bible and find consistency with all, then we are at great risk of misinterpreting what is being said.

Answer 7

Your question is why do Christians obey Paul more than Christ, not whether the cacophony of christian teachings have any merit. So I guess the right answer is that a Christian who obeys Paul over Christ actually obeys neither since only one of them is the head of the church and the other at least acknowledges that it is not him, and the reason for that must be that they don't believe in Christ.

Answer 8

Context...context people!

1) Paul says we should judge our fellow Christians - as you read his writings, he says that it is for their edification, so that they'll obey Christ (which is what Christ demanded, right?)

2) Regarding the "Lord, Lord" statement - context, again - who was Christ talking about? He was talking about those who claimed to be believers. Paul says that we must confess that Christ is LORD - and how do we know He is LORD of our life? By OBEYING Him.

3) Hmm...by that logic, what does Christ say about technology? Drugs? Music? Additionally, Paul confessed that his teachings were often not necessarily a command from God, but rather, good advice (see Proverbs).

Jesus' teachings are expounded upon by Paul, who met Christ when he was blinded. They are in harmony.

Answer 9

That's an interesting question - and one I've asked myself and others for a long time.

When I read something about Christianity, or listen to someone speak about their faith - Paul comes up more then Jesus does!

It seems that Paul's teachings are what actually made the faith. In fact there are those that believe that Paul actually came up with the entire faith himself - Jesus and all.

Answer 10

If Jesus did not condone what Paul said, it would not be in the Scriptures for these 2,000 years. Like just about everything else one needs to have the grace to interpret what is said. This is why Christ left us the position of the Pope and the Magisterium to interpret things like this and the future problems like cloning and Stem Cell research.