Why do Christians say that every German in Nazi Germany was "Not a real Christian" ?

Question

Do the 50 million Germans resent this statement ?

Do Christians just disown anybody who might make Christianity look violent ?

If a mass murderer shoots somebody, do all the Christians automatically excommunicate him and declare he "was never a Christian" ?

Does that somehow help them to convince themselves that they are the most peaceful people to walk the face of the earth ?

Very very curious and wondering what psyche produces this attitude...

Thanks for replying.


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Answer 1

They will not like you for publicizing their secret....

Answer 2

Hi Yahood, That's a bit of a generalization. We don't all do that. I've never disowned any other Christian because they did something I didn't like. Or didn't do something I thought they should.

I have never heard anyone say that German Christians of Nazi Germany were not Christian. They couldn't help it if their ruler was a nut case. Many just did what they had to to survive. And many believed his lies.

That is how you know an anti-christ. The people just feed into his lies. Revelation, in the bible, states that even the elect will fall victim to the lies.

I think it's an unChristian thing to do to decide who is and who isn't a "real" Christian. Someone who has never been through a time of such intense persecution should not point fingers. Not that you are. But the people who have said these things to you.

The Nazi's were occultists. They persecuted Christians left and right. My own name saint, Maximilian Kolbe died in a starvation bunker. The famed Dietrich Bonhoeffer. Killed.

Answer 3

Funny how you speculate on motives. I have no desire to promote Christians as the most peaceful people to walk the face of the earth. But how can you possibly deny the fact that "Christian" is an inherited title? The vast majority of "Christians" do not pray, do not attend religious services, do not read the Bible, do not think about God, have no specific hope for the future, and have little or no knowledge of Christian doctrines. In an area that has been 95% Christian for over 1000 years, where infants are proclaimed Christians at birth, and where citizenship automatically entails the title of "Christian," how can the title have any meaning? Is there no precedent for distinguishing between the inherited position and the actual religion?

In any other category, members are defined by the characteristics that they hold in common. Not so in Christianity - in this one category attributes are arbitrarily applied.

What kind of psyche looks at a peaceful, devout Christian, lumps him together with a group of mass murders, and then accuses them of dishonesty? What kind of double-think can apply standard logic in evaluating the common characteristics of categories in every other area of life, but must completely overturn that same logic in order to accuse innocent people of gross atrocities? If you don't understand what I am saying, keep in mind that the death camps were run by SS members who practiced mandatory Nordic paganism, and the camps were liberated by Christian soldiers. How, then, can anyone take such a one-sided view of the situation?

Answer 4

I'm sure they do resent it... probably in the same way they resent how some claim that just because they are German that it must mean they are a Nazi.

Yes, for the most part. Unless they can somehow turn them into a Saint or a martyr (though the martyr thing was mainly used during it's beginning).

Yes... unless there is some way they can turn it around to make it appear it wasn't that persons fault. Some actually get away with saying "The Devil made me do it"

I guess it does... but I'm not sure how people can ignore the reality when it's right in their face like that.

Answer 5

It appears that you have done what you just accused Christians of doing - meaning grouping everyone into the same pot. I've not heard your sentiment expressed before, but certainly, those that were NAZIs, even if they still professed to be Christian, were lacking in living our their faith, to say the least. Nazism was not about Chrisitianity by any stretch of the imagination.

I think part of the basic question is, what is a "Christian"? If it is just someone who claims to be one, then that is very broad. If it means someone who actually lives out the Gospel message, then that is a different matter. I prefer the latter. When using this, then there are likely many people who could be described as having never been a real Christian.

Answer 6

Exactly what "Christians" say this? I would like for you to e-mail me your 'facts' about this. Not all Germans alive in Germany were in agreement with what Adolph Hitler did, nor were they responsible for his actions. Oskar Schindler is a perfect example. He risked his very life for jews that he did not even know. This is the kind of unselfish love that a Christian is supposed to show to people. Whether Schindler was a Christian, I do not know, I am simply using his unselfish acts as an example to give you to refute your statement that we Christians think the way you seem to believe.

As for the rest of your post :

First, a man that TRULY follows Christ, i.e. : filled with the Holy Ghost, will not be a mass murderer. It simply will not happen. If you think differently, then you know nothing about Christianity or what a true Christian is.

Yes, many wars were fought in the name of Christianity. That does not mean that evil men with much to gain personally were not right in there with the Christian armies doing things for their personal gains, whether they were gains of money, power, status, etc. The movie "Kingdom of Heaven" is a good example. True story. A lot of killing on both sides, Christian and Islam. Many evil men on both sides, fighting for their own reasons.

This makes me wonder what psyche produces the type of thinking that you display. I doubt that you know enough true Christians to count on one hand, so why do you claim that this is a general belief of Christians?
What further makes me wonder what kind of psyche produces your kind of thinking is how you people that refute God and anything godly always cite hatred, evil, and prejudiced attitudes that have nothing to do with Christianity as Christian traits. A true follower of Christ will not display the kinds of traits that you describe, and if they do, then they are something other than Christians that cloak themselves as Christians.

I hope this answers some of what you are asking about.
May you find the peace of God, and His grace in your life. D.

Answer 7

Obviously, God is the final judge of a "true christian". However, Jesus did give a few guidelines. He said, as a general paraphrase, that his followers will be known by their love and by their good works. Jesus also said that many would come in his name, but that he (Jesus) never knew them.

Many books have been written about Germans who in the name of Jesus sacrificed their lives to save Jewish families. Most Christians recognize this. What Christians resent is the atrocities of the Nazi regime being held up as an example of the Christian faith in action. This is not fair to Christians. Nazism does not represent the teachings of Jesus.

Answer 8

Once the wheels were in motion, there was nothing any one german could do to stop it.

Christians stand in judgment on any nation that would exterminate 6 million people.

If the murderer committed his crimes in the name of God, yes we would disown him because that is not the kind of thing we stand for.

Are we the ones blowing up busses and targetting Israeli school children with snipers? As a matter of fact we are peaceful and we dont need nazi germany to compare ourselves with to illustrate it, its right in the Gospel, LOVE YOUR NEIGHBOR, LOVE YOUR ENEMY.

The more important question is, what psyche composes a statement about the holocaust and instead of condemning the nazis, they find a way to condemn Christians?

Answer 9

The Nazis where not Christians- you can read that in the statements of Adolf Hitler.

For a scholarly look, I recommend the books of Prof. Goodrick- Clarke.
In brief the Naziism is based on the ancient Teutonic beliefs ( the old gods) and Aryanism etc.

Answer 10

The general teachings of Jesus were to love God and love one another. I don't think mass murderers are following those teachings. You do know that many Christians were killed by Nazis also. Many tried to help the Jews and paid with their lives. That is what Jesus taught. I am not in a position to judge who is a "true" Christian and who is not. God will.

May God Bless you.

Answer 11

True Christians follow Jesus (only) blindly in faith.

Many Christians in Germany did an untold number of good works in saving the Jews.

The ones who were "not real Christians" would be those in the Nazi Party who supported Hitler, and followed his orders blindly.