If you (christians) could show someone 5 diffrent tangible evidences besides the bible to convince an atheist?

Question

what would they be? no prophecies just tangible evidence besides the bible

earth, mountains, babies are not proof of god

it's a hypothetical question stop getting your undies in a bundle

Answer 1

That's why Christians keep pushing the idea that "faith" is good. They have no real evidence.

If they had real tangible evidence, they wouldn't rely on wishful thinking.

Answer 2

A better question is how would an atheist judge morality, and what would it be based on? Laws are societies means of dealing with "right and wrong" But this is not always the case as all court rulings would not be deemed as moral. Next would bring up the conscience. As an atheist how do you explain how and why there is a conscience, that almost seems to be separated from the mind as a whole? You guys are always so quick to say how god can't be proved. However, you guys haven't taken a stab at trying to explain things in your view, and I'd be interested. You mention the Big Bang, etc but there's no real separation that you've made between religion and science there. The bible is very figurative, there are a ton of stories to teach morals, similar to a fable. The number 7 was used throughout the bible, Do you have any idea why there are 7 days in a week? Why god was said to have created the world in "7 days". First off it's figuritive, besides you are comparing God's timeless eternity, to our timeline. Why? Because Seventh Day "Sabbath Day" was said to be connected to the word complete. You're right, have you ever seen the aurora borealis? Does that mean that it does not exist?
Call religion what you want, the opiate of the masses etc, but it does serve a purpose. But religion can be an abstract set of ideas, values, or experiences developed as part of a cultural matrix. For example, in Lindbeck's Nature of Doctrine, religion does not refer to belief in "God" or a transcendent Absolute. Instead, Lindbeck defines religion as, "a kind of cultural and/or linguistic framework or medium that shapes the entirety of life and thought" Not too hard to fathom.

Answer 3

Well, for starters the fact that no matter how hard science tries, they just can't seem to create life from scratch.

Science also can't figure out why we grow old and die. Our cells are designed to completely regenerate every 7 or so years. So why does that process seem to come to an abrupt halt? Why not just continue forever and ever, the way it should be able to?

What about the inborn desire we all seem to have to believe in something bigger than ourselves? The Native Americans and Central Americans knew nothing of the Bible or it's teachings until after the dark ages, yet they still had extensive deity based belief systems. If no higher power exists, then where does that need come from? How did they come up with it?

And what of the numerous creation and flood accounts from practically every early civilization? If no worldwide flood occurred, then how did people who never came into contact with one another all have the same ideas? Didn't they have to originate from one singular thought/place?

And lastly, the history of the first century Christians is quite powerful. These people were eaten alive by wild animals in the Roman Colosseum for sport, yet still refused to renounce their faith in Jesus Christ. Seems like quite a waste for someone who supposedly never existed.

So there's my 5. No Scripture, all tangible and reinforced by secular and current history. Not too shabby eh? :0)

Answer 4

How can you have tangible evidence of the intangible? That's like saying, "can you find 5 different evidences that water is a solid?" Atheists tend to stack the deck by redefining the object. God, for example, is (by most definitions) an intangible being. Proofs of his existence tend to look for logical necessity, not evidence of a physical Deity. So, even if someone could prove that God exists, it would not meet your criteria, because it does not consist of tangible evidence.

As for the existence of God, you have to establish a common definition of "God" before anyone can argue anything. The God of the Pantheist exists (the universe), as does the God of the Buddhists (consciousness, energy), the God of Carl Jung (a manifestation of the collective unconscious), the God of the solar cults (the sun), the God of Kurt Godel (the sum of all positive properties), the God of the Gnostics (the transcendent universal category that includes all categories), the God of Aristotle (the first cause), the God of Christian Neoplatonism (energy), etc.

The question is not "does God exist," but "what are God's attributes." Is God rational, personal, panentheistic? Traditional Christian apophatic theology (Clement of Alexandria, for example) maintains that God is transcendent, and nothing more - an idea that is as close to atheism as you can get without being an atheist. It is no coincidence that the early Christians were executed for the crime of atheism, not Christianity. Apophatic theology does not ascribe attributes to God at all - it confidently asserts that God does not "exist," because existence is a mundane quality. It simply clarifies that God does not *not* exist.

Answer 5

1) My personal testimony. I wasn't somebody you'd want to bring home for dinner once upon a time. Finding Jesus Christ brought a peace to me I'd never experienced before, and still have. It filled a "God-sized" hole in my heart.
2) Archaeological evidence of Sodom and Gomorrah, the slavery of the Jews in Egypt, and many, many other things in the Bible.
3) Miraculous healings of people and answers to prayers that I have personally seen.
4) Prophecies that were made in the New Testament that were fulfilled hundreds or even thousands of years later. Most of those are mentioned in the Bible, but if you need secular evidence the invasion of Israel by Babylon and also by Persia was foretold long before it happened, and your ancient history books talk about that.
5) Seeing God work in people's lives. It's sometimes only possible to see after the fact, but it none-the-less happens and is obvious to the open mind.

All the above said, and more, nothing will convince you until you look into your heart and see the void that is there.

Answer 6

You want evidence yet you throw out a major piece of evidence. If you scrutinised the Bible, you would find tons of evidence for the existence of a very powerful, intelligent being. Whether you believed that being was God or not is a separate issue.

One atheist I know knows a lot about the Bible. I respect her. However, you clearly do not have nearly the same knowledge as her and have not done the same amount of research as she has. That really annoys me. You want evidence that suits you. You do not want to take the evidence that is there and examine it thoroughly. Please do not defend any person in a court of law if you apply that kind of wilful ignorance and illogic.

I am angry, not because you question what I believe, but because you reject all principles of logic and call it sense. I am tired of answering the same kinds of questions by uninformed atheists. Search Yahoo answers and you will find some of my more detailed answers. Now, if an atheist who chooses to apply logical principles and who has done their research asks me questions, then I will gladly answer their questions (as best I can, and will conduct research as required) as I have done with other atheists who I have respected.

Answer 7

this has to be the best and most telling. It seems to me what you people are doing is making assumptions. You say god made the trees.. the sun rise.. your breath.. well.. it's unfortunate.. you have to show that actually happened. I can make any assumptions you'd like if I don't have to prove it. You can't just say "god did it" and expect people to just accept it. Show god actually did it.

As for the person who asked if there is evidence of the big bang ( and claims to be an agnostic) .. there is much scientific evidence for the big bang if you look. And this is real evidence that you can see actually works. What you may want to look at is called.. "The 3 Pillars" this is the evidence right there. Not this supposed evidence from the bible that is not real evidence. It says it is evidence but where does it actually show god did anything?

Inetlligent design? This is one of the easist to refute. If the complexity of the universe requires a creator... then how can you explain an uncreated complex creator? It is obvious if complexity exists in a creator that was not created then complexity does NOT require a creator to exist.

Oh.. and Kent Hovind? man o man.. Dr. Dino has been refuted so many times most Young Earther Creationists don't mention his name anymore. It seems god doesn't think enough of him to keep him out of prison.

See that tree... it is beautiful.. I can't make a tree.. therefore.. God did it. Crap.. look up the fallacy called.. "God of the gaps" for why this is not proof of a god.

Answer 8

I am speaking here as an agnostic. You do not want proof. You reject all the proof. You are just trying to make yourself look clever and all you succeed in doing is proving that you have a closed mind.

What tangible evidence can you produce to prove the big bang? Do you believe in that? What tangible evidence can YOU produce to prove that the theory of relativity is correct? Do you believe in the theory of gravity? No quotes from scientists, just tangible evidence besides text books.

Answer 9

1) The changes that have come in the lives of multitiudes over the ages who have trusted in Christ. The Life Changer is God.
2) Miracles. They happen around us everyday, if you just look. The Miracle Worker is God.
3) Existence. Sorry, but something can not come from nothing. The Creator is God.
4) The Logics and Order of the Universe. It is not all happenstance. It follows a design, which is what makes science possible. The Designer is God.
5) Morality. Right and wrong can only have a meaning if there is Absolute Moral to which to compare them. That is God.

(I have more if you want them....)

Answer 10

The calm meditation produces.
The inert desire everyone has not to die and to live forever-to be in constant youth.
The ability of the body to heal itself.
Consciousness of man - our ability to think, yet we haven't been able to create, even in controlled atmosphere, anything alive without life having been there before.
The diversity of creation in of itself. If we all spawned from a walking fish, we would all more likely look like each other- same for the rest of what's around us - why do we need thousands of different kinds of ants? or trees? or flowers even? (We don't- one dominant species of each would be sufficient for the earth to continue on) Had it all originated on it's own, when did the cycles of life begin? The big bang theory? - where did the stuff that banged together to form us come from? For that matter, where'd it go? If it was always around, then I'm afraid we're on equal ground my friend....to believe something infinite, with no beginning or end, is to believe in a higher being.

Answer 11

The planet, the animals, life, a conscious and atheist all prove that there is a God and that we have a free will to choose to believe or doubt! Who else could create all of the beauty in this world, who else could keep wild animals from attacking us or invading what use to be their space, who else can give life and as far as the Atheist go, just because you don't believe, that doesn't mean that God don't love you. Just so you know I do not consider my self a "Christian" to me that is a label and I am not no holy rolling bible beater, I just believe in God and I believe in Satan. And I know that I have the free will to practice what ever religion I want! Just like you do.