How many Catholics even understand what it is? What is it's purpose? Why does the Church feel the need to practise this ridiculous ceremonial farce when it has no biblical backing?
2007-04-23 02:46:38 · 18 answers · asked by Kiril 2 in Society & Culture ➔ Religion & Spirituality
Ah, you are funny people. Jesus did not encourage or allow the consumption of his literal flesh and blood. This would have been a grave sin according to Gods standard for disposal of human blood. We are saved through the SHEDDING of Jesus blood, you silly wee people, not the EATING of it. Putting faith in his sacrifice and the redeeming quality of his blood in what is needed for forgivenss of sin.
2007-04-23 02:56:24 · update #1
There's nothing wrong with communion.....in fact, we're called upon to commemorate it.
What is wrong is the belief that the bread & wine literally become the body and blood of Christ.
The emblems have no saving value, it's what they represent that matters the most.....the broken body & the shed blood of our Lord & Savior, Jesus Christ.
2007-04-23 02:49:16 · answer #1 · answered by primoa1970 7 · 2⤊ 3⤋
I am a convert to Catholicism and I understand transubstantiation.
The purpose is the command of Christ himself to his followers.
The church feels the "need" to practice it because it is commanded by Christ himself to us.
Read John 6:53 - Jesus says...eat my body, drink my blood. Jesus says this 6 times...just the fact that he states it over and over should call great attention to the fact that it's very important.
Then of course, at the last supper, he institutes the Eucharist. Having already prepared them for these words in John 6, he now says...take, eat, this is my body, that is given up for you and ...take, drink, this is my blood which is shed for you. The Apostles already knew what he was refering to. They had heard this before. Jesus had told them you MUST eat my flesh and drink my blood. The Apostles knew what he was talking about and they now knew how to do it.
Everything Jesus said is important...every word...so certainly something he repeats is even more important. Jesus said nothing off the cuff...or anything that could be construed as meaningless...or without weight.
The miracle of the Eucharist is God is not only with us but in us. We are incorporated into the Body of Christ by receiving him into our own bodies.
2007-04-23 03:10:20 · answer #2 · answered by Misty 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
How come you people fight against the very words of Christ by your hatred of Catholicism and feel justified?
It never fails to amaze me how you can say that when Jesus said this He didnt mean that, Jesus spoke in two ways to the Apostles and the people and this is obvious in scripture, one way was parable and allegory and the other was solemly, you explain to me how in Gods holy Name the speech at the last supper was anything but solemn and direct language.
2007-04-23 03:00:45 · answer #3 · answered by Sentinel 7 · 2⤊ 0⤋
It is Christ himself, the eternal high priest of the New Covenant who, acting through the ministry of the priests, offers the Eucharistic sacrifice. And it is the same Christ, really present under the species of bread and wine, who is the offering of the Eucharistic sacrifice.
Only validly ordained priests can preside at the Eucharist and consecrate the bread and the wine so that they become the Body and Blood of the Lord.
The essential signs of the Eucharistic sacrament are wheat bread and grape wine, on which the blessing of the Holy Spirit is invoked and the priest pronounces the words of consecration spoken by Jesus during the Last Supper: "This is my body which will be given up for you. . . . This is the cup of my blood. . . ."
By the consecration the transubstantiation of the bread and wine into the Body and Blood of Christ is brought about. Under the consecrated species of bread and wine Christ himself, living and glorious, is present in a true, real, and substantial manner: his Body and his Blood, with his soul and his divinity
Jesus said: "I am the living bread that came down from heaven; if any one eats of this bread, he will live for ever; . . . he who eats my flesh and drinks my blood has eternal life and . . . abides in me, and I in him" (Jn 6:51, 54, 56).
The Eucharist is the heart and the summit of the Church's life, for in it Christ associates his Church and all her members with his sacrifice of praise and thanksgiving offered once for all on the cross to his Father; by this sacrifice he pours out the graces of salvation on his Body which is the Church
2007-04-23 02:52:59 · answer #4 · answered by Gods child 6 · 6⤊ 1⤋
Jesus said during the last supper: This is my body.
He did not say this is a symbol of my body.
Transubstantiation means that the substance( the being of the thing) of the bread is transformed into the substance of Christ's body while the accidents( the appearances of the thing) remain.
How can you doubt that Jesus, being God, can do miracles like this?
He also said: I will give my flesh for the salvation of the world.
2007-04-23 02:52:59 · answer #5 · answered by carl 4 · 5⤊ 1⤋
It is simply a different take on communion and grace. They believe grace is dispensed piece by piece, item by item and the bread and wine become literally Jesus' flesh; rather than all at once at the cross. That is why our cross is empty and their crucifix has Jesus still on it.
It is plausible from a Biblical standpoint based on many verses, but I believe they are misinterpreting it like they do many things.
2007-04-23 03:01:01 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 1⤊ 1⤋
To clearify this for the readers, transubstantiation is supposed to mean that the bread is the actual body of Christ and the wine is the actual blood of Christ. Of course this cannot be since He died once for all as the scripture says.
There are many things that the Catholic Church teaches that have no biblical backing:
here are some web sites with more information:
http://www.reachingcatholics.org/
http://www.gnfc.org/
http://www.justforcatholics.org/index.htm
http://home.znet.com/bart/
http://www.pro-gospel.org/
2007-04-23 02:56:28 · answer #7 · answered by redeemed 5 · 1⤊ 3⤋
I agree with you, and so does the Bible.because there Catholic, they do not practice anything that is in the Bible, they have Priest, there are no Priest, the Priesthood ended with the tearing of the cloth at the alter when Christ died o the cross. The Catholic church is not Christian in any belief, all have a double and confusing meaning. they have taken the simple things, and confused everyone, Why? because they are not Believers in Christ, they are a worldly system, that is mentioned in the Bible. "they have a form of belief" . Don't waste your time arguing doctrine with false believers, spread the Gospel message of salvation, as commanded by Christ, he never mentions debating with un-believers, they will never agree, until there heart is changed, and that will only happen by hearing the gospel message, Let God do the Changing, debating just makes them defensive.
2007-04-23 02:58:07 · answer #8 · answered by edjdonnell 5 · 2⤊ 2⤋
Here's what CRACKS me up...'born again' is mentioned ONE TIME in the bible, yet ya'll push it and push it and throw the term around non stop, taking it literally, as we should.
However, FOUR times Jesus said 'truly truly, unless you eat the flesh of the Son of Man you have no life in you' and ya'll say NAH...........can't be.
Funny thing it is - it could not be more clear yet you ignore it. Oh well - your loss.
Yeah, ok...
2007-04-23 03:56:54 · answer #9 · answered by SpiritRoaming 7 · 1⤊ 0⤋
Jesus said regarding the unleavened bread "this means my body" and the wine meant his blood. This was obviously symbolic. But another point to remember is that this took place as he and his disciples celebrated the Passover. This he did annually not weekly.
2007-04-23 03:44:20 · answer #10 · answered by Free Bible Study 1 · 1⤊ 1⤋