Is this the perfect Explanation of the Trinity Concept ?

Question

‘Christ according to the faith, is the second person in the Trinity, the Father being the first and the holy Ghost the third. Each of these three persons is God. Christ is his own father and his own son. The Holy Ghost is neither father nor son, but both. The son was begotten by the father, but existed before he was begotten--just the same before as after. Christ is just as old as his father, and the father is just as young as his son. The Holy Ghost proceeded form the Father and Son, but was an equal to the Father and Son before he proceeded, that is to say before he existed, but he is of the same age as the other two. Nothing ever was, nothing ever can be more perfectly idiotic and absurd than the dogma of the Trinity.’

- Col. Robert G. Ingersoll



Polytheism = The concept that God can be three separate entities at one and the same time.

1) Jesus praying unto God
2) Holy Ghost in the form of a Dove
3) God Above


Water cannot be liquid, solid and gas at one and the same time.
Time cannot be past, present and future at one and the same time.

Whatever other explanations are out there……. they cannot exist in three forms at one and the same form unless you are talking about a polytheistic god.

Polytheistic gods were three deities within one spirit.

Answer 1

The trinity is what you get when you try to take a monotheistic faith and blend it to make it familiar to the polytheists your trying to convert.

If you call yourself polytheistic then you contradict the principals your religion was founded on, but if you only worship an abstract God then your religion will not appeal to those who are used to having their Gods have physical form.

So what do you do? You call Jesus part of God and make up the Trinity to justify your situation.

Answer 2

long time ago, st Augustine was walking on the beach one day and was pondering the mystery of the Holy Trinity, the question of how can 3 beings be in 1, and 1 in 3, had the intelligent and holy man so perplexed that he almost didn't see a little child in front of him. the little child dug a small hole on the sand and was going back and fort to the sea and emptying water into it. He was about to ignore the boy he thought was just playing when he notice what the boy was doing and ask "what are you doing?" the little boy replied, "im gonna empty all the waters of the ocean unto this hole!" st Augustine answered' " But that's impossible! " the little boy look him straight in the eyes and said, "but what you're doing is more impossible than this." The details, nature, concept and the mystery of the Holy Trinity is beyond the realm of human understanding. God, just didn't gave us the mind capable and big enough to understand God. But God gave us the heart capable and big enough to love, believe and have faith.....sir...it is really idiotic and absurd to understand God using our human mind.

Answer 3

Such an incredible concept as One God and three divine Persons cannot be fully comprehended or explained fully, our minds are finite and we try to explain the infinite and with the inadequate tool of human language,no wonder there is a problem.
Jesus explained many things to the Apostles and some things are not recorded in the Gospels, John the Apostle had a great perception of the Trinity and the opening to his Gospel tells us that Christ is the WORD of God and that He is God,he could not be so adamant on this had not Christ explained it to him first.
The Godhead is not subject to human restrictions not in their nature or by time and space as we are, all we can really state is that this nature of God allows for the three Persons of the Trinity to be so united and so close as to be one God.

Answer 4

The word "trinity" is not found in the Bible, but the concept is. All cults deny the Trinity. Christians claim it is true. But, what is it? Is it an office held by three gods (Mormonism) or a pagan concept borrowed from ancient cults (as the Jehovah's Witnesses teach)? The Oneness Pentecostal believers teach that God is not a Trinity but is really one person who takes three forms. So, which of these is true? None.

The Trinity is the doctrine that there is only one God in all creation, all time, and all places. This one God exists as three persons: Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Each person is not the same person as the other, yet there are not three gods, but one.

The Bible has many references to a plurality concerning the nature of God's existence. Consider the following verses as an example: Gen. 19:24, "Then the Lord rained on Sodom and Gomorrah brimstone and fire from the Lord out of heaven." Notice that the Lord rained FROM the Lord out of heaven. Amos 4:10-11 says, "I sent a plague among you after the manner of Egypt; I slew your young men by the sword along with your captured horses, And I made the stench of your camp rise up in your nostrils; Yet you have not returned to Me, declares the Lord [YHWH]. 11I overthrew you as God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah, And you were like a firebrand snatched from a blaze; Yet you have not returned to Me, declares the Lord." Notice here that the Lord is talking and says, "I overthrew you as God overthrew Sodom and Gomorrah." Sometimes when I show these verses to Jehovah's Witnesses (without saying anything else), they often respond with, "Are you trying to show me the Trinity?" I then say, "You got the Trinity out of that? Wow!"

In the New Testament there are several verses that show God's plurality. Here 's two. Matt. 28:19, "Go therefore and make disciples of all the nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and the Son and the Holy Spirit," Note that there is one name and three persons. Also, 2 Cor. 13:14, "The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the fellowship of the Holy Spirit, be with you all." These kinds of verses, and others (see http://www.carm.org/doctrine/trinityplural.htm for more) are part of the means by which the doctrine of the Trinity is derived.

When we "theologians" use the word "person," we are not saying that God is three individual beings walking around who are actually one being. That would be a contradiction. Instead, we define a person as having self awareness, identity, can speak, love, grieve, etc. These are attributes of personhood and we see all of these attributes, and more, in the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. If you want to see a chart that exemplifies this, go to http://www.carm.org/doctrine/trinity.htm and look around.

The Trinity is a very important doctrine within Christianity. It is the correct view of the Godhead and needs to be affirmed by Christians. Of course, the cults deny the Trinity, often misrepresent it as teaching three gods, or that it is an office, etc. But the truth is that the Trinity doctrine is derived from Scripture and is unique to Christianity.

Finally, the Trinity is important because only in the doctrine of the Trinity can we have the true incarnation of God (the Word become flesh as the Son - John 1:1,14). Only the God-man Jesus can offer a sacrifice sufficient to appease the infinite Father in heaven. No mere man can do this. No mere angel. Instead, God the Word, in His grace, added to Himself human nature (Phil. 2:5-8) in order to bear our sins in His body on the cross (1 Pet. 2:24) so that He might become sin on our behalf (2 Cor. 5:21). This way, He atoned for our sins by the shedding of His blood (Heb. 9:22) and guaranteed that all who trust in Him will receive everlasting life (John 3:16). Because of what Jesus did on the cross, we might then have eternal life that is received by grace through faith (Eph. 2:8). Amen to that!

Answer 5

God is the supreme holy being, creator of all, Jesus and the Holy Spirit are two separate entities and the only two entities to have achieved perfect oneness with God, being just like God.

Answer 6

No, because that is not the meaning of polytheism. Polytheism is having faith (or belief in) more than one God or multiple Gods. What you speak of is monotheism, as it is one entity (God) that has more than one form. True polytheists believe that The Gods are separate and individual beings.

Answer 7

Man has a body, a soul and a spirit, yet we are called one.

God has the Father, the Son and the Holy Spirit and He is One.

Answer 8

The perfect explanation for the Trinity concept is that it's false! It's a man made doctrine to satisfy those that like to "fit in" in Christianity. It was moved to Christianity because of pressure from 'christians' who were also 'pagans.'

The trinity is nowhere in the Bible. If Jesus wanted us to know that he, the Father, and the holy spirit were one, he would have told that to his disciples clear as day.

And yes, that is Polytheism wrapped up.

Answer 9

The Trinity is a mystery of faith and not explainable by reason.
But the Trinity is not contrary to reason only "over" reason supra-rational.

Answer 10

A pastor once said if he can explain Trinity, then he is the fourth Person.