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It is ironic that liberals want to blame conservatives and Republicans for the Virginia Tech disaster. Indeed, far from being a validation of liberal policies towards gun ownership, the fact is, the Virginia Tech catastrophe, is quite the opposite. What happened in Blacksburg, Va., on Monday proves that liberal policies have, once again, failed to protect the innocent.

The first evidence that liberal ideas either contributed to, or were the cause, of the VA Tech tragedy is that of the very words of the murderer, Cho Seung-Hui. A videotape and some writings he made before, and during the killing spree, which he sent to NBC, revealed his motivation. Among his reasons were his resentment of "rich kids," and their "Mercedes," their "golden necklaces," their "trust funds," their "debaucheries" and their "hedonistic" lifestyle.

This hatred of the "rich" is right out of the leftist and liberal Democratic Party philosophy of class warfare. It is they who are always demonizing the wealthy - claiming they want to starve the poor, or send the poor to war for oil so they can profit from it. Democrat leaders like Charlie Rangel, Ted Kennedy, Harry Reid, and Howard Dean, among others, routinely portray the wealthy as greedy and evil.

The second substantiation that liberal concepts caused the massacre was that the murderer, despite having a history of criminally insane behavior, was not incarcerated. Almost 18 months ago, a Virginia court order, dated December 13, 2005, stated the murderer "is mentally ill and in need of hospitalization, and presents an imminent threat to self and others as a result of mental illness..." He was taken by police to a psychiatric facility, Carilion St. Albans Behavioral Health Center, where the next day Dr. Roy Crouse, a psychiatrist found that he was "mentally ill," yet did "not present an imminent danger to himself/others" and did, "not require involuntary hospitalization." (This is contradicted by another form signed by a Judge Paul Barnett which states the murderer is a danger to himself, yet recommends outpatient treatment).

The killer was represented by an attorney at that time. This was a requirement established "civil libertarian" attorneys. Indeed the "danger to himself or others" sole criterion for involuntary hospitalization is the direct result of the "civil libertarian" philosophy of not placing mentally ill people in institutions. Indeed, "civil libertarians" are quite proud of the fact that they changed these laws. They rejoice that they caused millions of mentally ill people to roam the streets and make it difficult for them to be arrested. This was essentially codified by a 1975 Supreme Court ruling.

The third proof that liberalism was responsible for the Virginia Tech carnage was the leftwing policy that Va. Tech's campus was a "gun free zone." Guns were not permitted to be carried on campus. Consequently, the students were unable to defend themselves and kill the murderer.

Compare this to Pearl (Mississippi) High School, Vice Principal, Joel Myrick, who in October 1997, realized that a 16-year-old student was killing students. Myrick went to his vehicle got his gun and returned in time to stop the killer. Myrick, by doing this, was in violation of the Gun Free School Zones Act of 1990.

Ironically, eight months before the Virginia Tech student killer was able to walk out of psychiatric facility, in April 2005, another VT student was disciplined for carrying a gun on campus. A VT spokesman said, "We think we have the right to adhere to and enforce that policy because, in the end, we think it's a common-sense policy for the protection of students, staff and faculty as well as guests and visitors..."

An armed VT student or VT students might have prevented the slaughter just as Joel Myrick did at his Mississippi high school

Liberals need to be very careful if they want to use the Virginia Tech incident to validate their ideas because, if anything, it disproves them.

They also discredit themselves by claiming that nearly all studies disprove that guns are used in self-defense. This is patently false.

The May 1997 National Institute of Justice report titled, "Guns in America; National Survey on Private Ownership and Use of Firearms cited two studies that furnished significant - if divergent - numbers for defensive gun use.

The National Crime Victimization Survey data concluded that guns are used about 108,000 per year for self-defense. The National Survey of the Private Ownership of Firearms determined that people defended themselves with guns 2,500,000 times per year. Philip Cook, the director of Duke University's Public Policy Institute and a member of the apolitical National Consortium on Violence Research, states that the actual figure is somewhere in between these two.

Whatever the actual figure, the fact is that while there are about 10,000 gun homicides each year, there are more people who use guns to protect themselves. It is also worth noting that federal government data states that about 15 percent of murderers have a prior homicide conviction and that about 65 percent have a prior felony arrest.

2007-04-22 06:59:32 · 15 answers · asked by GREAT_AMERICAN 1 in Politics & Government Politics

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Because, according to liberals, conservatives are to blame for everything. They don't believe in "personal responsibility", instead they want to blame this guys actions on society. Newsflash, he is responsible for his behavior and he will answer to God. As you so plainly laid out, it was the liberal's policies and actions that made this such a heinous crime possible. He would not have been able to get far if he had 30 guns pointed back at him. It is the same logic they use for blaming Bush for everything that goes wrong with our country - from the war, to Hurricane Katrina - it's faulty logic and if they would actually study something besides cbs, abs, nbs, and pmsnbc, they might learn something. Although, any of them that answered your question probably only read the top part ....I'm sure you understand where I am coming from there.

2007-04-22 07:15:14 · answer #1 · answered by pollywog 6 · 1 2

You had me with the "blame" question but then lost me when you went on to lay out the reasons why liberals should be blamed. The guy was a mentally ill nut job. Whether he was "liberal" or "conservative" doesn't really matter much, the man was looney tunes. Why do we have to lay blame at all, other than just seeing it for what it was? Don't try to tell me that no conservatives have mental illnesses, it exists in all walks of life. I find it disconcerting that both sides of the political angle want to blame someone, anyone. But the fact that the full extent of his illness wasn't recognized and acted upon by mental health professionals seems to only get a byline.

2007-04-22 07:10:32 · answer #2 · answered by Anonymous · 4 0

do all you people sit in your house and cry every 37 minutes when a homeless person dies in this country...or every day when hundreds of Iraqi's die...or millions around the world die of starvation...yes, this is a senseless tragedy but until you start caring about every last one of these poor people, maybe you sound a little hypocritical...If 9-11 happenned in Harlem, Detroit's inner city and Oakland, would you have cared as much? I don't think our government would have

2016-05-21 01:32:32 · answer #3 · answered by ? 3 · 0 0

The only person to blame for the VT incident was the shooter.

Blaming liberalism, conservatism, gun laws, mental health laws, etc.. is just a diversion. If you can't keep your own goddamn personal politics out of an apolitical situation, STFU and GBTW.

2007-04-22 07:17:37 · answer #4 · answered by eatmorec11h17no3 6 · 1 2

Why are conservatives trying to blame mental illness on liberals when the cons would block the spending of any funds for meaningful mental health care in this country. We know the private insurance industry recommends drugs and not therapy. The Va tech shooting was sad so why are you trying to politicize this tragic event and attack others with so much hate. BTW, your rant is not only twisted but quite a stretch.

2007-04-22 07:13:59 · answer #5 · answered by Raven 5 · 3 3

The first evidence that this was actually an act of terrorism was shown one time and one time only by NBC. The video that the shooter made, he clearly states that he is going to do the shootings for this reason, and I quote, "I'm doing this for all my brothers and sisters that you (US) f#cked over..".
This clip was not shown again, and by the next day, none were being shown.
The shooting was a tragedy. It is sad that it has to be used as a political tool. The republicans want to blame liberals because to admit that it was an act of terrorism would be admitting failure in the 'war on terror'.
Believe nothing the Bush administration says or does.
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2007-04-22 07:07:58 · answer #6 · answered by Anonymous · 2 5

Are you insinuating that it might be a liberal problem? Or are you selling a conservative platform?

I think it's morbid to attack or defend ... this incident is not some narcissistic mirror for your views on politics.

Have some basic human decency for the sake of the families and loved ones of the victims and survivors.

Be responsible and please delete your own question.

EDIT: I just looked back at your questions since the incident and in most of them you directly throw blame Liberals and Liberal Schools for the shooting. This questions was actually one of your more tactful questions.

2007-04-22 07:07:19 · answer #7 · answered by ... 7 · 3 3

Sorry for the short answer, but that is what they do, blame someone and today the enemy is bush.

And btw, that is a great question, well written and thought out. If you don't mind I would like to copy some of it.

2007-04-22 07:45:38 · answer #8 · answered by rmagedon 6 · 1 2

uh, gun reform? many democrats are for stricter gun laws, but the good ole boys dont want that, god forbid they are prevented from shooting deers, or illegal immigrants.
the man was documented with mental illness' and yet he had no problem obtaining weapons legally. there is a flaw in the gun laws and it is obvious.

2007-04-22 07:16:28 · answer #9 · answered by LoverOfQT 5 · 1 3

Wow! I think it's terrible to bring politics into this tragedy but you made some really intelligent points here!

2007-04-22 07:10:15 · answer #10 · answered by Brianne 7 · 1 4

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